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  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,139 Forumite
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    pile-o-stone wrote: »


    We can't speak for ms Thunberg, but can for ourselves... At what point in history do you think we should halt progress and give up fossil fuels?

    In the UK, maybe 2050.
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  • JKenH
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    pile-o-stone wrote: »
    Now if you believe this then please explain your view below:




    If you believe the first part of your statement about FF contributing to global warming then doesn't it answer your question on why young people want to move away from using fossil fuels? It's the same answer you just gave! You also want to move away from fossil fuel use!

    Yes, you’ve answered that one for me, I do want to move away from FF use eventually but not by 2025 as XR are demanding.
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  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,139 Forumite
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    Now I have indulged you, it is your turn to answer the question I posed in post #100.
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  • pile-o-stone
    pile-o-stone Posts: 396 Forumite
    JKenH wrote: »
    Yes, you’ve answered that one for me, I do want to move away from FF use eventually but not by 2025 as XR are demanding.
    JKenH wrote: »
    In the UK, maybe 2050.

    Why 2050, not 2060, 2090, or 2100?
    Why at all?
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  • pile-o-stone
    pile-o-stone Posts: 396 Forumite
    edited 14 October 2019 at 12:59PM
    JKenH wrote: »
    Now I have indulged you, it is your turn to answer the question I posed in post #100.

    I wasn't expressing a view. I was asking a question.
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  • JKenH
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    pile-o-stone wrote: »
    Why 2050, not 2060, 2090, or 2100?
    Why at all?

    I’m not a scientist so I can’t calculate the tipping point but if the scientists say 2050 to be FF free I will have to go with that for now. It is though more than 30 years away and things may change for better or worse by then.

    What date do you suggest?
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  • 1961Nick
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    pile-o-stone wrote: »
    Why 2050, not 2060, 2090, or 2100?
    Why at all?

    What have you got against 2070 & 2080?
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  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,139 Forumite
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    pile-o-stone wrote: »
    I wasn't expressing a view. I was asking a question.

    Actually it came across as a rhetorical one. I had already said no more new FF plants so if you were asking why not it suggested you felt that developing countries should still push ahead with FF.
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  • pile-o-stone
    pile-o-stone Posts: 396 Forumite
    1961Nick wrote: »
    What have you got against 2070 & 2080?

    Nothing at all. I just wonder why Ken is so against 2025 yet in favour of 'maybe 2050'. I'd be interested in how he arrived at 2050, whether it had a scientific basis, or just a date pulled from the air?
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  • pile-o-stone
    pile-o-stone Posts: 396 Forumite
    edited 14 October 2019 at 1:18PM
    JKenH wrote: »
    I’m not a scientist so I can’t calculate the tipping point but if the scientists say 2050 to be FF free I will have to go with that for now. It is though more than 30 years away and things may change for better or worse by then.

    What date do you suggest?

    Are the scientists saying 2050?
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