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Pension tax relief for basic rate taxpayer when wanting to maximise contributions

Hi all

Hopefully a simple question. If I earn £35k per year, can I contribute £35k gross (£28k net) and get 20% tax relief on the whole amount?

I believe this is correct, but it's slightly confused me as 20% tax wasn't paid on the whole £35k due to the personal allowance of £12.5k on which no tax was paid.

Thanks in advance

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  • Dazed_and_confused
    Dazed_and_confused Posts: 6,458 Forumite
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    edited 26 July 2019 at 2:50PM
    You are confusing two separate things.

    There is no direct correlation between the tax you personally pay and the tax relief due on a "relief at source" pension contribution. There are plenty of posters on here who aren't liable to pay any tax whatsoever but contribute £2,880 each year and get this grossed up to £3,600 with basic rate tax relief.

    If you are Scottish resident for tax purposes you will be due a small adjustment to your personal income tax liability as a relief at source contribution increases the amount of basic rate tax you can pay. Marginal gains as Dave Brailsford would say :p

    NB. Is your employers or auto-enrolment pension relief at source or have you forgotten to take into account contributions to an existing pension scheme?
  • mramra
    mramra Posts: 619 Forumite
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    Thanks for the reply. I'm resident in England. I do have a NEST auto-enrolment pension as well and understand I would have to deduct these contributions from my pay to give me the amount left to contribute. I left out this detail for simplicity as my main question was whether 20% is added on regardless of contribution level (subject to the limit of total earnings). I think you've clarified that, thanks.
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    Yes, assuming the final 12.5 gross is into a relief at source pension and not via workplace salary sacrifice.

    Employer contributions don't count towards the 35k but do count towards the 40k annual allowance.
  • mramra
    mramra Posts: 619 Forumite
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    No salary sacrifice. Other than NEST, all contributions are paid from net pay into a stakeholder pension so are relief at source.

    Therefore think I'm correct that to take maximum benefit of tax relief available I take my £35k gross pay, subtract personal contribution into NEST, then multiply by 80% to give the net amount I need to contribute into my stakeholder (to which Sajid Javid will kindly add 25% for me so that the gross 100% amount ends up in the pension).
  • Paul_Herring
    Paul_Herring Posts: 7,484 Forumite
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    I believe this is correct, but it's slightly confused me as 20% tax wasn't paid on the whole £35k due to the personal allowance of £12.5k on which no tax was paid.

    If contributing out of net pay, yes. It can be thought of as an extension of the £2880 (£3600 gross) that someone not earning anything can contribute.
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