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Advise on Statute Barred please

Hello, I'd appreciate any advice please.

I had been receiveing emails from Lantern for an aged debt to Quickquid. Initially I ignored them as I kinew the debt would become statute barred soon enough. And then back in June I received a letter threatening court action.

I sent them the prove it letter and recevied a reposnse which they calim proves the debt isn't statute barred.

Within the pack they have a list of transactions as follows;

29/03/2013 Principal £700.00 debit
29/03/2013 Interest £206.50 debit
19/04/2013 Principal £300.00 debit
19/04/2019 Interest charges £103.25 debit
03/05/2013 Interest charges £309.75 debit
04/05/2013 Late Fees Assessed £12.00 debit
07/06/2013 Late Fees Assessed £12.00 debit
26/07/2013 Interest Payment Received £35.01 credit
26/07/2013 Late Fee Payment Received £12.00 credit
15/08/2013 Interest Payment Received £47.01 credit
13/09/2013 Interest Payment Received £47.01 credit
11/02/2014 Interest Payment Received £32.26 credit

The thing is, I didn't make these payments as they must have taken them without my knowledge using CPA.

Also as they are interest charges would this still count as a payment within the 6 year timeframe.

Thank for any adivce.
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  • Willing2Learn
    Willing2Learn Posts: 6,294 Forumite
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    Hi and welcome to the forum :)

    What date was the account defaulted? (The default date will be recorded on our credit files.)
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  • DanF2019
    DanF2019 Posts: 11 Forumite
    Thanks!

    The debt isn't recorded on my credit file and I cant find any default date on the correspondence
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 32,522 Ambassador
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    DanF2019 wrote: »
    Thanks!

    The debt isn't recorded on my credit file and I cant find any default date on the correspondence


    Which may suggest the account defaulted early in 2013, and has subsequently dropped off your credit file.
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  • Willing2Learn
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    Have you checked all three credit files for the default date? I only ask because the statute barred clock starts ticking from the 'cause of action'. The default date would be considered the 'cause of action'.

    Also, what exactly was the threatening letter you received from Lantern in June? Was it a 'Pre Action Protocol' letter and forms? Does the letter and attachments look the same as those in the video linked below?
    https://www.stepchange.org/debt-info/ccj/court-claim-form-process.aspx
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  • sourcrates
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    A recent case in the appeal court has decided that the "cause of action date" on loans and credit cards, should now be regarded as the date of default, or, the date the original default notice expired, usually one and the same.

    Payments made by a 3rd party without your permision or knowledge do not count as acknowlegement by you.

    Lantern (who used to be Motormile Finance) have a reputaion for attemping collection of statute barred debts, and also for putting forward pretty rubbish arguments as to why a debt may not be statute barred.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • DanF2019
    DanF2019 Posts: 11 Forumite
    I don't think its ever been on there,....

    I need to know if the interest payments they have taken from me unwittingly would count as a payment within the limitation period. As if they do, I assume I am still liable.
  • DanF2019
    DanF2019 Posts: 11 Forumite
    So i have checked my emails from quick quid and the first "Notice of Default Sums" was on the 8th June 2013
  • DanF2019
    DanF2019 Posts: 11 Forumite
    Would you suggest I email them with this info and state that the payments were taken without my knowledge?

    If so would yoiu know if there is a letter template for this or similar?
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 32,522 Ambassador
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    DanF2019 wrote: »
    So i have checked my emails from quick quid and the first "Notice of Default Sums" was on the 8th June 2013


    What does the email say ?
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  • DanF2019
    DanF2019 Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 20 July 2019 at 3:24PM
    Sat, 8 Jun 2013, 00:03
    to

    This notice is being sent to you as required by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 because default sums have been assessed against this loan. This Notice does not take account of default sums which we have already told you about in another default sum notice, whether or not those sums remain unpaid.

    Dear

    Customer ID#:
    Loan ID#:

    The above loan from QuickQuid is overdue. As a result of your returned debit on the due date, we have assessed the following default sums against the loan:

    Date Incurred: 08 June 2013
    Details: Dishonour Fee
    Amount: £12.00

    These default sums have been assessed because the payment below was not met on the due date:

    Loan ID#: 6875052
    Funding Date: 03 May 2013
    Loan Amount: £1050.00
    Due Date: 05 June 2013
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