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Dead man's iPhone

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  • missile
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    Takmon wrote: »
    That's a bit rude isn't it considering people took time to help you and you couldn't even outline why they needed access.
    Oh contraire, I would suggest you were very rude to ask repeatedly why she wanted access. I was told in confidence and I have no intention of sharing that with a voyeur.
    A.n.other poster has given several valid reasons why she may require access.
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  • missile
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    If that once worked, it doesn’t now on iOS 12.3.1
    I did actually report that in post 23
    missile wrote: »
    I found this on line https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a41783/hack-iphone-passcode/
    Apple have closed this option for those who have upgraded to the latest operating system.
    Fortunately he had not updated the operating system.
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  • Takmon
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    missile wrote: »
    Oh contraire, I would suggest you were very rude to ask repeatedly why she wanted access. I was told in confidence and I have no intention of sharing that with a voyeur.
    A.n.other poster has given several valid reasons why she may require access.

    Well the first time i asked was because depending on the that needed to be accessed then that changes the advice. Like i said nobody knows who you are or who your talking about so it's not unreasonable for me to ask.

    But I've never been called a "voyeur" before on here for asking for information :rotfl:

    You do realise what voyeur means don't you? it actually specifically relates to watching people who are naked or engaging in sexual activity...
    missile wrote: »
    She want's to view messages et al.

    You said she wanted access to "messages et al" which considering they are private to someone who deceased i think that's a bit out of order looking at them. But now your saying voyeurism is involved :eek: sounds like something pretty dodgy is going on and i'm not surprised you don't want to tell us.
  • missile
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    Takmon wrote: »
    Well the first time i asked was because depending on the that needed to be accessed then that changes the advice. .
    Why? You didn't offer any advice. Just being a nosy parker.
    Takmon wrote: »
    But I've never been called a "voyeur" before on here for asking for information :rotfl:
    Definition; a prying observer who is usually seeking the sordid or the scandalous = that sounds like you :rotfl:
    Takmon wrote: »
    You said she wanted access to "messages et al" which considering they are private to someone who deceased i think that's a bit out of order looking at them. But now your saying voyeurism is involved :eek: sounds like something pretty dodgy is going on and i'm not surprised you don't want to tell us.
    Does anyone care what your opinion is? As others have said there are MANY reasons why she might want access. For example: I don't know all of my wife's friends / their contact details to advise them in the event of her death. It would be useful to access those on her mobile, but I don't have her PIN.
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  • Uxb1
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    Fortunately when I was doing much the same as an executor of a distant relative.The iphone pass code was the same as the deceased's home key safe code - which the neighbours knew: I guessed it might be.
    That gave me access to the iphone.
    Then I run a password cracker/extractor on the deceased's PC to get the email password stored on it.
    Now as I have control of the 2FA item (the iphone) I can log into the 2FA secured email from another PC (mine) as the 2FA code is texted to the iphone and change the security details to my own.
    This now gives me full access to the deceased's email which in turn enables me to do my bleeding job as executor much easier and I now have an idea of their online accounts from the emails stored, not to mention the online gas/electric/phone etc accounts...and the rest.
    Fortunately the address book was still the old fashioned paper one kept by the land line phone.

    This sort of thing is going to be a problem in the future.
    It will become a major issue where people have extensive purchased e-books and online music libraries. In the past these were on CD and in paper form and were dealt with under the will usually to whom the personal goods and chattels were given to.
  • Rainbowgirl84
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    missile wrote: »
    Many thanks for all your comments. I have found a solution see post 23, and I will not be commenting again.

    Yet you have done so repeatedly...very strange. Does your 'word' really mean so little to you? If so should anybody on MSE believe anything you say?
  • missile
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    Yet you have done so repeatedly...very strange. Does your 'word' really mean so little to you? If so should anybody on MSE believe anything you say?
    Another keyboard warrior. :rotfl:
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  • Chino
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    Uxb1 wrote: »
    This now gives me full access to the deceased's email which in turn enables me to do my bleeding job as executor much easier and I now have an idea of their online accounts from the emails stored, not to mention the online gas/electric/phone etc accounts...and the rest.
    All in breach of section 1 of the Computer Misuse Act 1990:
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/18/section/1
  • DigForVictory
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    As the legislation for being an Executor has not kept up with the changes in technology, I have to say that from a wholly pragmatic point of view, I'd put a truck through the Computer Misuse Act 1990 too.

    Or I might try to keep my Executor hands clean & ask a child to act as I call off the instructions.

    It's not an easy situation to be in & I must now write a carefully worded email to my over 80 year old parents asking them to leave All Their Passwords written down somewhere In A Legible manner (their handwriting was always idiosyncratic & age has made it trickier).
  • Mojisola
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    It's not an easy situation to be in & I must now write a carefully worded email to my over 80 year old parents asking them to leave All Their Passwords written down somewhere In A Legible manner (their handwriting was always idiosyncratic & age has made it trickier).

    LastPass lets you name a contact for emergency access.

    https://support.logmeininc.com/lastpass/help/set-up-and-manage-emergency-access-lp030013
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