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Wife's old company pension

I don't fully understand this so hopefully can explain it correctly and get the correct advice.
Basically my wife has been offered an enhanced transfer offer from her old company pension scheme

It says the current value is £52k and they'll add £3700 if she transfers out.
She has a company pension with her current employer but I have no idea about that and I lumped about £60k in a private pension for her a couple of years back. Don't know if any of that counts or is important but what would be the standard way to go? if there is one, shes 41
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  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,833 Forumite
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    Basically my wife has been offered an enhanced transfer offer from her old company pension scheme

    Cui bono?

    Is your wife a deferred member of a Defined Benefit Pension Scheme?

    See https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/transferring-out-of-a-defined-benefit-pension-scheme

    Is her current occupational pension a DB Scheme?

    Be aware that if she wishes to transfer out of a DB pension with benefits in excess of £30,000 into a Defined Contribution/Money Purchase Scheme she will be required to take ( and pay for) the advice of a pension transfer specialist which will not be cheap.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/495377/pension-benefits-with-a-guarantee-factsheet-jan-2016.pdf
  • lesta1980
    lesta1980 Posts: 163 Forumite
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    I have no idea to be honest, the stuff she's been sent doesn't really make it clear, plus I just thought a pension was a pension.

    why would a company offer this? reduce the fees?
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 29,576 Forumite
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    I just thought a pension was a pension.
    You need to at least find out if she has a Defined Benefit/Final salary scheme or a Direct Contribution scheme . Until this is clear no sensible advice can be offered.

    Check these links for more info .
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/pensions/
    https://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/
  • lesta1980
    lesta1980 Posts: 163 Forumite
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    it was final salary she has just told me, her current one is a normal contribution one
  • JoeCrystal
    JoeCrystal Posts: 3,405 Forumite
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    edited 15 May 2019 at 2:40PM
    lesta1980 wrote: »
    I have no idea to be honest, the stuff she's been sent doesn't really make it clear, plus I just thought a pension was a pension.

    why would a company offer this? reduce the fees?

    It is more of a matter offloading the liability of paying your wife until she dies and possible spousal and children's pension, which may cost more than the transfer value itself.

    What is the expected pension from which age?
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,833 Forumite
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    As I said above,

    Cui bono? Your wife's? Or the scheme's (which by permitting a transfer out relieves itself of any responsibility with regard to revaluing in deferment/index linking in payment/providing spouse/child pensions ...)

    Does your wife have a copy of her deferred scheme booklet?
  • lesta1980
    lesta1980 Posts: 163 Forumite
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    well you've said cui bono twice now so guess that means something??
  • Preacher64
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    lesta1980 wrote: »
    well you've said cui bono twice now so guess that means something??

    Basically who benefits most from the transfer. Your wife or the company. It will almost certainly be the company as they potentially absolve themselves of a significant liability if the pension is in payment for a number of years.

    As previously mentioned, transferring out of a Defined Benefit (Final Salary) pension which has a value of more than £30,000 would require professional advice which, for the value of your wife’s pension, is likely to be disproportionately expensive. Would the company be paying for this advice?

    In most cases, it is better to leave a DB pension where it is.
  • FatherAbraham
    FatherAbraham Posts: 1,024 Forumite
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    lesta1980 wrote: »
    well you've said cui bono twice now so guess that means something??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono
    Thus the old Gentleman ended his Harangue. The People heard it, and approved the Doctrine, and immediately practised the Contrary, just as if it had been a common Sermon; for the Vendue opened ...
    THE WAY TO WEALTH, Benjamin Franklin, 1758 AD
  • lesta1980
    lesta1980 Posts: 163 Forumite
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    Preacher64 wrote: »
    Basically who benefits most from the transfer. Your wife or the company. It will almost certainly be the company as they potentially absolve themselves of a significant liability if the pension is in payment for a number of years.

    As previously mentioned, transferring out of a Defined Benefit (Final Salary) pension which has a value of more than £30,000 would require professional advice which, for the value of your wife’s pension, is likely to be disproportionately expensive. Would the company be paying for this advice?

    In most cases, it is better to leave a DB pension where it is.

    thank you, it does say they are offering free advice which she'll be ringing tomorrow
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