Petition to keep the Swindon Honds Plant Open

Brown_Bear

The demand for cars in the UK has been increased by cheap credit deals.
I see people on minimum wage driving nearly new cars. A few years ago that was not the case.
It seems as if cheap credit is filling the gap left by stagnant / falling wages.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe car prices will start to fall?

Brown_Bear

The directors of Honda have a legal duty to their shareholders.
It would probably be illegal for them to take notice of petitions.
How would you feel about it if you were a Honda shareholder?

StevieJ

fatbeetle wrote: »

Talking of fools telling lies, there's a whopper just there..

You have to laugh at people like "Arklight" whose whole lives seem to be defined by Brexit, to the point of obsession.

So you believe everything that Honda and Tory Mp's say ?

Honda has warned a no-deal Brexit would cost it tens of millions of pounds in additional tariffs and would damage its competitiveness, but the Japanese carmaker said it was committed to its factory in Swindon.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/sep/18/honda-no-deal-brexit-tariffs-swindon

wunferall

StevieJ wrote: »

So you believe everything that Honda and Tory Mp's say ?

You realise that the EU/Japan trade deal wasn't agreed until December 2018 don't you?
So of course it must surely be pure coincidence, the change in stance between the date of your link (September 2018 ) and the trade deal coming into effect in February 2019.
Sure it was.
There was no material change in circumstances, really.

StevieJ

wunferall wrote: »

You realise that the EU/Japan trade deal wasn't agreed until December 2018 don't you?
So of course it must surely be pure coincidence, the change in stance between the date of your link (September 2018 ) and the trade deal coming into effect in February 2019.
Sure it was.
There was no material change in circumstances, really.

So Japan have a free trade deal with the EU but the UK wouldn't if Brexiteers get their way. How is that nothing to do with Brexit?

Andy_L

John_G_Jones wrote: »

What possible use will that serve? Honda have made an economic decision based on the facts as they see them. Why would a petition change their mind?

We could always use the plant to start recreating British Leyland. After all that was a big success last time round

Herzlos

If you want Honda to stay in the UK, press your MP to ensure that we remain in the single market. Honda have made it clear that leaving the single market kills their UK business model dead.

Arklight

Honda warned repeatedly about the risk of Brexit. You can read the stories going back to 2017 if you Google "Honda Brexit warning". I can't be bothered to link to them all and the Brexit-heads wouldn't read them if they were three words in length and a mile high, because it wouldn't match their current version of reality.

Hell, they ignored them while they were happening.

Here's one from the Guardian:

A senior figure at Honda listed a catalogue of risks posed by Brexit at a briefing near its Swindon plant last year, fuelling doubts about the carmaker’s insistence that Britain’s withdrawal from the EU had nothing to do with the factory’s closure.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/21/honda-european-chief-outlined-no-deal-brexit-concerns-in-2018

As for Honda saying Brexit has nothing to do with their closure, now, well can't upset their customers. Apparently the new Civic is going to have a Pringles holder installed. It'll be called "The Brexit Edition" and you get a free photo of the factory worker who won't have a job anymore.

ess0two

As for Honda saying Brexit has nothing to do with their closure, now, well can't upset their customers. Apparently the new Civic is going to have a Pringles holder installed. It'll be called "The Brexit Edition" and you get a free photo of the factory worker who won't have a job anymore.[/QUOTE]

Sounds cool, does the defection from diesel make any difference?

Herzlos

What's the proposal to keep it open? Guilt trip Honda into staying? Bribe them?
Have the government take over the factory and start building Austin Princess' again?

Post brexit we could really do with a local car manufacturer making cheap, crap and simple cars. We'll be able to lower safety and environmental standards to allow the return of some 70's classics. Brown cars seems to be popular again already.