Forced to take on new role

eamon

This sounds suspiciously like something senior NHS managers have been attempting in some Yorkshire NHS Trusts i.e. creating a business within the NHS with different and radically worse T&C's than existing staff doing the work currently. I thinks its an attack on the pay award negotiated to lower band staff. To the OP you must speak to your union urgently and get your colleagues to do likewise.

bobblebob

Dont worry we will be. They have caused me and others stress and anxiety all week and it was all based on lies because they dont have the backing of Unison.

getmore4less

Union should be all over this sort of nonsense.

business needs some flexibility but the NHS is notorious for pushing beyond the limits.

They can't forse you to resign as group terminating everyone that refuses and issuing new contracts is a high risk strategy.

Another trick that is used by employers is tell people in redundancy situations you have to apply for jobs, as soon as you do that you loose the right to reject something that is unsuitable.

They often won't tell you the job description and terms till you apply a catch 22 situation

If they can't get people to work call centre they need to make it more attractive.

Typical NHS management using the wrong solution.

The solution to retention was to put people on longer notice rather than fix the problems.

getmore4less

bobblebob wrote: »

Dont worry we will be. They have caused me and others stress and anxiety all week and it was all based on lies because they dont have the backing of Unison.

This needs reporting to the highest levels within the trust.

bobblebob

On a side note, are office union reps allowed to be managers? Because thats the situation we have and to me its conflict of interest.

Reason im not in Unison

theoretica

bobblebob wrote: »

On a side note, are office union reps allowed to be managers? Because thats the situation we have and to me its conflict of interest.

Reason im not in Unison

Certainly - the union will represent managers too. According to Unison's website "Stewards are elected each year by the group of members that they represent..." So this rep will have been elected by the people who are members, from the people who volunteered to stand - or have been the only person who put themselves forward.

bobblebob

So i got a call from my GMB rep yesterday, had a good long chat. Upshot is the NHS can theoretically change your job like they're trying at my place, but there is very strict processes they have to follow set out in employment law. From what i told him he said they havent followed any of that. Even mentioning redundancy later down the line is a big no no for any organisation. He said the correct procedure is to have consultations with staff etc to come to a compromise. They cant just force changes in and tell you you have to accept them, thats not how it work. They also cant force me to accept an offer or resign. He said i could very well successfully argue at a tribunal that change of hours (flexi to shift work) is enough to stop them forcing me taking the new job


His advise is to dont sign anything or agree to anything, the NHS have to do all the leg work here. Let them dig themselves into a bigger and bigger hole and if it comes to it, they will be there with me to sort it out.


I told him that Unison didnt know anything about this, and he said he used to work for Unison before the GMB and it was very common tactic. So many times members would be unhappy with him for not standing up for them, when Unison knew nothing about what was going on because they had never been told