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leaving the NHS for the private sector: what should I do with pension?

Hi
After 38+ years, I have decided to move into the commercial sector. I am 58. Question is: do i take my NHS now or do I leave it until I am 60. I just can't work out what is best. Any thoughts very welcome. thanks

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,603 Forumite
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    Question is: do i take my NHS now or do I leave it until I am 60. I just can't work out what is best.

    Which best fits your objectives?

    With no financial information or any objectives given, that is the best we can do.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • masco1
    masco1 Posts: 31 Forumite
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    I won't need the money from the pension as my salary in the new job is enough for me to live on. My nhs 'retirement age' is 60. I believe there is an actuarial reduction if I took the pension now. Is this the case if I defer taking pension until I'm 60? I am on the 1995 scheme. I guess what I am trying to ascertain is what are the pros and cons of taking the pension payments this year
  • JoeCrystal
    JoeCrystal Posts: 3,407 Forumite
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    masco1 wrote: »
    I won't need the money from the pension as my salary in the new job is enough for me to live on. My NHS 'retirement age' is 60. I believe there is an actuarial reduction if I took the pension now. Is this the case if I defer taking pension until I'm 60? I am on the 1995 scheme. I guess what I am trying to ascertain is what are the pros and cons of taking the pension payments this year

    There is no point in taking it if you can live on the salary. I can see that the most significant disadvantage would be paying more taxes. Better to wait until your retirement age so you can take pension without any reduction.
  • GunJack
    GunJack Posts: 11,932 Forumite
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    If your NRA is 60, take it at 60. If your NRA is 60 or 65 or 67 then you'll get actuarial reduction if you take it before the NRA.
    ......Gettin' There, Wherever There is......

    I have a dodgy "i" key, so ignore spelling errors due to "i" issues, ...I blame Apple :D
  • AnotherJoe
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    Pro= more money immediately (that you dont need so is it a pro?).
    Con= lose a fair bit of it in tax, which if you dont need the money now would seem, on the face of it, to be monumentally stupid since you'll never get that money back and whats left will just sit in a bank losing money to inflation.
  • badmemory
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    So taking it (when you don't need it) will reduce your pension for life with the actuarial reduction. What will it do to your tax affairs, would it push you into 40% tax? Or just make it all taxable at 20% because your personal allowance has been used by your new job?
  • masco1
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    thanks for all comments. I am a 40% tax payer. Seems best to leave it until my normal pension age when I shall finish my new job.
  • AnotherJoe
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    edited 31 January 2019 at 1:12PM
    masco1 wrote: »
    thanks for all comments. I am a 40% tax payer. Seems best to leave it until my normal pension age when I shall finish my new job.


    You'd be several bananas short of a bunch to take it now then.


    You should check what your options are as to when you take it, eg if you can take it age 60 with no reduction, you might find that you can postpone it and get an uprated amount when you do take it, or you might not, so in that case you should take it as soon as its available at full rate even if you'd pay tax due to working (and that might mean you decide to retire earlier).
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,850 Forumite
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    Have you obtained a new state pension statement?

    https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

    Does your new employer offer a pension?

    Had you considered pension contributions to take you out of 40% tax?

    http://www.actuarialpost.co.uk/news/pension-contribution-can-help-avoid-new-higher-rate-tax-185.htm
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    So I would nto touch it until it pays out in full (or later if it can be uprated).

    Then, as a 40% taxpayer, join the ne ork pension and pay in at least enough to take you out of HRT
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