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  • Mrs_Soup
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    Normally I would say don't say anything about going for interviews but schools are used to knowing when staff are looking for other jobs as teachers have to get references ahead of going for the interview so it might not be as odd in this environment as elsewhere. I think for the first at least I would make an excuse but if you end up with a number of interviews close together you may need to tell them.
  • elsien
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    jonnygee2 wrote: »
    Personally I'd go with doctors appointment. They'll possibly figure what it means, but it's normal fare to call interviews doctors appointments and its a bit less awkward. Saying you are going to an interview is a bit brazen, it almost looks like a threat.

    Have you seen the other thread by someone working in a school who is facing a disciplinary for lying about being unwell to attend a job interview?
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  • jonnygee2
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    I haven't, can't actually see it either? Did they book annual leave though, or just pull a sickie? Because the latter is obviously pretty irresponsible, I'd take someone to disciplinary for that too tbh.
  • BakingC
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    Just from another perspective I am always honest about seeking other employment as I find it makes it easier, have never had a bad reaction to it, think it makes their jobs easier as they get a headstart on prepping finding a replacement etc. Then again I have never left because I didn't enjoy a job always things like relocation.

    If it is a permanent role and they know you think the role isn't for you I would say honesty is the best policy as it will allow them a few extra crucial weeks in sourcing a replacement reducing the time students will be without the extra support.
  • TELLIT01
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    jonnygee2 wrote: »
    I haven't, can't actually see it either? Did they book annual leave though, or just pull a sickie? Because the latter is obviously pretty irresponsible, I'd take someone to disciplinary for that too tbh.


    A couple of posts ago you said that claiming a doctor's appointment is pretty much standard, but now you are saying that pulling a sickie is pretty irresponsible. Both are lying so why is one acceptable and the other not? If somebody claimed they had a doctor's appointment, and you discovered they had actually been for an interview, would you start the disciplinary process in the same way as if they had called in sick and attended an interview?
    Obviously, if somebody books annual leave they can do as they wish with the time.
  • jonnygee2
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    A couple of posts ago you said that claiming a doctor's appointment is pretty much standard, but now you are saying that pulling a sickie is pretty irresponsible. Both are lying so why is one acceptable and the other not?

    Because one is booked in advance as annual leave. You are giving advance notice and being paid through what you are entitled to through your leave allowance. The other is just taking advantage, you are calling in sick, putting pressure on colleagues and possible also abusing the sick pay policy.



    If somebody claimed they had a doctor's appointment, and you discovered they had actually been for an interview, would you start the disciplinary process

    No I wouldn't generally . Because it's pretty normal. People book annual leave for interviews and when asked they say that they are going to the doctor, or they had a big night out planned the night before, or they just felt tired etc. All lies, but not ones that warrant a disciplinary.

    Of course if I found out someone was interviewing two weeks into the job I'd give them notice though!
  • hyubh
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    BakingC wrote: »
    Just from another perspective I am always honest about seeking other employment as I find it makes it easier, have never had a bad reaction to it, think it makes their jobs easier as they get a headstart on prepping finding a replacement etc.

    If you actually get a new job quickly, then great. If the interviews don't go too well, then it's a recipe for being sidelined in your old one as it doesn't make sense to have as a key team member someone who is liable to be serving their notice at any minute.

    On the other hand, since the OP doesn't appear to have any job satisfaction to lose, maybe that isn't much of a concern...
  • Are you on probation? If so I would not suggest telling them you have an interview. If I was your employer in that situation I would be looking to get rid of you and replace with somebody that wants to be there.
  • elsien
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    jonnygee2 wrote: »
    I haven't, can't actually see it either? Did they book annual leave though, or just pull a sickie? Because the latter is obviously pretty irresponsible, I'd take someone to disciplinary for that too tbh.

    They pulled a sickie - which on the face of it is what you were advocating. You didn't mention taking it as leave in your initial post.
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  • jonnygee2
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    They pulled a sickie - which on the face of it is what you were advocating. You didn't mention taking it as leave in your initial post.

    If that's how it came across, then I think you were right to challenge it! But how do you go to a doctors appointment if you don't book leave? I guess you could phone on the day and claim you had some kind serious ailment and need an emergency GP appointment. But that's certainly not what I meant!
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