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Advice needed re contract/pay

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  • Exodi
    Exodi Posts: 4,235 Forumite
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    edited 18 January 2019 at 8:46AM
    hyubh wrote: »
    Presumably both of you would just shrug your shoulders if you got an immediate pay cut of 7.5% tomorrow...?

    That's a bad argument, you need to put it into context... For someone working part time (say 20 hours a week) you'd be taking home £160 gross a week at £8 p/h (NIC become payable above £162.01 p/w and so you would pay 12% on £17.99 or £2.16 in contributions p/w) for a net take home of £157.84. Compared to £152.00 at £7.60 p/h (no NIC payable) so a net take home of £152.00.

    Plus, with all respect to the OP, a retail assistant is probably the most dispensable role in the job market. It's almost a certainty they would be able to call the first number off a tray of CV's to replace them the same day, and why wouldn't they? It's not a specialised field and they could pay someone 7.5% less, as you pointed out, to do the exact same job without any recourse. Sadly it's just living in the real world.

    Would I risk losing my job over £5.84 a week? I think you know the answer to that.
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  • Two options:

    1. Refuse - be sacked.
    2. Accept - continue working.

    Your choice.
  • KatrinaWaves
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    hyubh wrote: »
    Presumably both of you would just shrug your shoulders if you got an immediate pay cut of 7.5% tomorrow...?

    I wouldn't because I have more than 2 years service. However, my job roles and responsibilities change constantly, some I like, some I don't, but all of them are legal and I have to put up or shut up.

    The OP did 'fight it' and got to an agreement with the manager to continue paying £8. However, this has been overruled by HR and legally they can, they have tried to fight it, and they have failed.
  • Comms69
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    hyubh wrote: »
    Presumably both of you would just shrug your shoulders if you got an immediate pay cut of 7.5% tomorrow...?



    Maybe, maybe not. Even if it was 7.5% (as opposed to the recalculation by Exodi)


    I think most people would prefer to lose 7.5%, rather than 100%....
  • AJ1982
    AJ1982 Posts: 266 Forumite
    A 7.5% pay cut is surely better than 100%
  • Savvy_Sue
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    Exodi wrote: »
    This seems to be a common theme with those less versed (and the younger generation) in employment legislation; they assume they have all sorts of rights and employers can't do anything without their permission. Then there's the disbelief stage that an employer can effectively sack an employee for whatever they want in the first two years which you're in now.
    which is why we should be encouraging 'the younger generation' to join a union sooner rather than later.
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  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,691 Forumite
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    Putting dismissal aside, legally can they reduce my pay? The employees handbook says that they can’t reduce my pay only increase it.


    Legally, they can dismiss you, and offer you a new contract that has lower pay. As pointed out above, if they let you stay on this higher rate, they risk upsetting many other employees, including others under 21 - they have decided to upset only you.



    Is there anything, other than the higher pay rate, that you want to negotiate for? More hours, different hours, training?
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
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