We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Some advice regarding a settlement

Hi all,

People were very good on here last month when I had an issue so thought I would seek some advice for a friend I was speaking to last night ( same company I worked for previously )

He has been offered a settlement package at work consisting of the following terms:

Non Discolsure Agreement
Termination of contract on signing agreement
A lump sum in April

Now the question I have is as follows, is 3 months too long for the settlement? - not been able to find anything official?

But also the terms of the agreement state that if he finds employment within the 3 months that the settlement will be reduced on a percentage scale

The lump sum is worth 8 months salary ( 3 months until April/ 5 as compensation ) so is significant and he can afford to live for the period with no work but seems restrictive to me

Obviously have told him to get it checked but wondered if anyone had any advice before he is able to

Comments

  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,778 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    But also the terms of the agreement state that if he finds employment within the 3 months that the settlement will be reduced on a percentage scale

    Finds employment or starts employment? It needs to be the latter.

    I wouldn't be happy with the 3 months until April not being paid until April. That should be up front on signing.

    Assess the risk of the company going bust between now and April.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    silvercar wrote: »
    Finds employment or starts employment? It needs to be the latter.

    I wouldn't be happy with the 3 months until April not being paid until April. That should be up front on signing.

    Assess the risk of the company going bust between now and April.

    There is no "should" in this context. With a settlement agreement the terms are whatever is negotiated between the parties. So it depends entirely on the strength (or otherwise) of the employee's position.

    If he can negotiate something better then great. If not, there there are only two options......
  • Settlement agreements are up for total negotiation.


    It seems a sensible offer from the employers point of view in that the offer allows for reduction.
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    I would get it clarified exactly what is on offer.

    If packaged as 3 month garden leave with a compensation payment at the end then one negotiation is to make it PILON with compensation paid immediately.

    if it is PILON then there is no reason to withhold payments or have the payments reduced.

    If garden leave then it is not unreasonable to have that reduced if you want to leave early.

    They need to decide if they want an employee they can control or not.
  • LilElvis
    LilElvis Posts: 5,835 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    To be legally binding the employee must have independent advice - the solicitor should be able to advise as to whether the agreement is fair and recommend any changes.
  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 5,010 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    dlpfan2019 wrote: »
    ...
    He has been offered a settlement package at work consisting of the following terms:

    Non Discolsure Agreement
    Termination of contract on signing agreement
    A lump sum in April

    ...
    The lump sum in April could be very advantageous from a tax point of view, as long as your're sure the company will still be there. (and assuming it may take a little while to find alternative work).


    I also negotiated an agreed reference. Indeed I wrote it myself.
  • LilElvis wrote: »
    To be legally binding the employee must have independent advice - the solicitor should be able to advise as to whether the agreement is fair and recommend any changes.


    Exactly what I was going to say. And the solicitor will charge - make sure the employer picks up this charge.
    Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).
  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,881 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Exactly what I was going to say. And the solicitor will charge - make sure the employer picks up this charge.

    Although it is customary for the employer to pay for the employee to receive basic legal advice for a settlement agreement it is not actually obligatory that they do so.

    The employer is unlikely to agree to pay for more than the absolute minimum to make the agreement legally binding. If the employee wants the solicitor to negotiate on their behalf they will almost certainly have to pay the extra themselves.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.