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Why Northern Ireland is treated differently?
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Why people in Northern Ireland are eligible for Irish passports but not people from other parts of UK i.e. Great Britain?
It appears people in NI are getting best of both worlds in spite of being part of UK.
Whatever happened in the past, it is better to move forward and not remaining stuck in the past.
If NI wants to join Ireland, lets have a referendum and see what NI wants (after all if Scotland can choose then why not NI, Wales or England)?
It appears people in NI are getting best of both worlds in spite of being part of UK.
Whatever happened in the past, it is better to move forward and not remaining stuck in the past.
If NI wants to join Ireland, lets have a referendum and see what NI wants (after all if Scotland can choose then why not NI, Wales or England)?
Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
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, lets have a referendum and see what NI wants
Yes, experience shows that a referendum is a really good way of finding out what people want and then implementing it smoothly.
Differences are easily smoothed out without any anger or rancour, and the losing 48% become quickly reconciled to the democratic expression of the wishes of the 52%.
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Under the GFA, residents of NI have a right to identify as Irish and hold an Irish passport. In fact I think this arrangement predates the GFA.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0
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NI is run by a bunch of hypocrites who pretend to want to be the same as the UK (hence the issue with the backstop) yet where convenient (e.g. gay marriage, libel laws etc), want to pick and choose their own laws.
NI polling has consistently shown a division along religious grounds with the minority Catholics tending towards a united Ireland and the majority Protestants tending towards the UK. That sort of vote would go more the way of the Scottish one and still wouldn't go away even if it was a binding once in a generation vote (as opposed to an advisory one like the EU vote)Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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I recon it's worth giving them a vote.
With Britain leaving the EU, I think it's plausible that a small percentage of people who would normaly vote to remain in the UK would decide that it would be better to remain in the EU by joining ROI.
Given the population rates of growth, NI will be mostly "catholic" soon anyway.Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.0 -
People in NI can have Irish passports but people in England can't.
People in Scotland can have free university but people in England can't.
Either have same laws for everyone or get each area to fund their own fun.
Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.0 -
Why people in Northern Ireland are eligible for Irish passports but not people from other parts of UK i.e. Great Britain?
It appears people in NI are getting best of both worlds in spite of being part of UK.
Whatever happened in the past, it is better to move forward and not remaining stuck in the past.
If NI wants to join Ireland, lets have a referendum and see what NI wants (after all if Scotland can choose then why not NI, Wales or England)?
:rotfl: Is this for real?
Yes, that's exactly what everyone thinks when they look at Northern Ireland, it really has the best of both worlds.0 -
Why people in Northern Ireland are eligible for Irish passports but not people from other parts of UK i.e. Great Britain?
Untrue.
The Republic of Ireland allows anyone born on the Island of Ireland to become an Irish Citizen. An Englishman living in NI can also qualify based on residence in NI.
However any UK Citizen living in England (indeed living anywhere in the world) can obtain Irish Citizenship for about 250 Euros if they were born on the Island of Ireland or have a parent or grandparent born on it.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
However any UK Citizen living in England (indeed living anywhere in the world) can obtain Irish Citizenship for about 250 Euros if they were born on the Island of Ireland or have a parent or grandparent born on it.
A lot of those people are living in NI & the majority of people in the rest of the UK don't have that right.
I'm discriminated against because of where my grandparents were born.
Of course it's not NI fault, it's the republic that offers the passports.
Personally I think we should give NI back, but then I think that nationality should only come into play in sports & has no place in politics.0 -
A lot of those people are living in NI & the majority of people in the rest of the UK don't have that right.
If you have lived in most EU countries for a several years you can adopt that nationality if you choose. Just because you have never chosen to live in Ireland its hardly fair to complain you do not qualify.
.I'm discriminated against because of where my grandparents were born
Well by that yardstick I am discriminated against because my grandfather was not born in one of the EU27 nations.Of course it's not NI fault, it's the republic that offers the passports.
Personally I think we should give NI back, but then I think that nationality should only come into play in sports & has no place in politics.
Give NI back? We the UK partitioned Ireland and retained NI so it was never part of Eire
This is not politics. The rules for Irish Citizenship existed long before the 2016 referendum.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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