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Lowell chasing me for a 14 year old loan

Hi there, Never posted on here before so I hope I am in the right place!

Lowell recently sent me a letter chasing a loan I had with Welcome Finance back in 2004, Asking me to pay it obviously and that a CCJ was put out in 2015, which it was, and at the time I wasn't aware of a loan being statute barred.

Now I am convinced between 2007 and 2014 there was over 6 years without any payments or contacts with this loan and that now realised maybe it was statute barred, I keep everything so I am aware of no payments in 2008 to them and had no correspondents with them until 2014.

Another thing that is making me very wary of this letter and the emails I have received since I applied for a CCA Is that they keep telling me when the loan was taken out by myself, and the dates they have give me is over 2 years out, which makes me think they have no clue about the details of this loan.

The advise I am asking for really is can I do anything about the ccj if the loan is Statute Barred, and if they are lying about the details of the loan, which they clearly are as I still have my original loan agreement, Is there any route I can go down to stop them from harassing me about this loan that they are lying about in there details of it??
I would really appreciate any sort of advice, cheers!

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  • sourcrates
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    Hi,

    Once court action has been taken, you can no longer use sec 5 limitations act, as a defence, unless you successfully obtain a set aside at court.

    So you can apply for a set aside if you wish, on the basis the debt was statute barred, but you must be sure of your dates, and it will cost you £255.00 court fee.
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  • Thanks for the reply, Is it down to Lowell to prove the dates or for me to prove that there was a 6 year gap?

    Like I say I feel something isn't quiet right as they are well off with the dates and they said I made a payment in 2009 to welcome but I never made a single payment to them as I have the old bank statements still!
  • sourcrates
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    Lowell don’t need to prove anything now as they have a county court judgement against you, if you want to challenge this applying for a set aside is your only option.

    If you are successful, then you can get them to prove the debt is not statute barred, but you must win in court first.
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  • Just_Di
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    Garymac03 wrote: »
    Lowell recently sent me a letter chasing a loan I had with Welcome Finance back in 2004, Asking me to pay it obviously and that a CCJ was put out in 2015, which it was, and at the time I wasn't aware of a loan being statute barred.

    The advise I am asking for really is can I do anything about the ccj

    Can you give a little more information about the CCJ from 2015.

    Did you receive the claim form but failed to file the Acknowledge of Service so they got a Default Judgment (CCJ) so it's unlikely you'll be able to reverse that decision?

    Or did you file a Defence and the claim has been stayed ever since?

    Or were you unsuccessful at the Trial but now think the DJ may have made an error granting a CCJ on a Statute Barred debt ? If you didn't plead Statute Barred in your Defence it's unlikely that you'd be able to appeal the decision.

    Who is/was the Judgment Creditor (i.e. the Claimant) in these proceedings? Was it Lowell Portfolio or did Lowell purchase the debt from someone else who had already obtained the CCJ? I ask this question because you say Lowell only contacted you "recently"

    My apologies if I've not fully understood your situation. :)

    Di
  • I received the ccj in 2015 and at this time I acknowledged the debt by filling in a N245 and paying £50 and agreed to pay this debt of monthly an arrangement I broke later in 2015 and then had no more contact from Lowell until earlier this week.

    Since 2015 I have became aware of a debt being statute barred and have realised when the CCJ came in 2015 I should have wrote back then saying the debt was statute barred as there was no contact between me or welcome/Lowell between December 2007 to 2014.

    Reason really for the post was to see if I could now apply to have this debt statute barred or pay to have the ccj set aside for these reasons although I do now feel this is unlikely! Thanks once again for the responses and any help will be appreciated!

    Also I am weary like I say of the amount and the debt its self as everything in the letter is way off as luckily I still have my agreement from Welcome finance from when I took the loan out and wondered if this could be challenged at all!
  • Lowell did previously contact me in 2014 and before that at some point a company called Hamptons had it but I didn't have any contact at all with them
  • And sorry to go on again but in the agreement it also looks like I was mis sold PPI when I took the loan out but I imagine there is nothing I can do about that now!
  • Hi Just Di was hoping you might have a response to the answers I gave to your questions, cheers!
  • Slayerx
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    Garymac03 wrote: »
    Lowell did previously contact me in 2014 and before that at some point a company called Hamptons had it but I didn't have any contact at all with them

    Hamptons is part of Lowell from what i understand its there Legal Department but with a different name.
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  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,278 Forumite
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    Slayerx wrote: »
    Hamptons is part of Lowell from what i understand its there Legal Department but with a different name.
    Yes it was just a different letterhead that Lowell used to use.

    A lot of companies did this until the FCA declared it unfair a few years back
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