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  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 15,582 Forumite
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    Streamside wrote: »
    In a case where there are a large number of transferred employees I also believe it would be a foolish employer who would tie themselves into grievances and tribunals for years.

    In reality that won't happen, because too many people will value their jobs.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • nicechap
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    Streamside wrote: »
    In a case where there are a large number of transferred employees I also believe it would be a foolish employer who would tie themselves into grievances and tribunals for years. I'm watching this situation with interest and will feedback.

    I expect your union will be able to give you chapter & verse on your rights but if you’re insistent on maintaining your current terms how will you feel if you do not get a pay rise between now & retirement? Is your role such that it can never ever be changed irrespective of Brexit, economics, technological change or customer needs.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    Streamside wrote: »
    In a case where there are a large number of transferred employees I also believe it would be a foolish employer who would tie themselves into grievances and tribunals for years. I'm watching this situation with interest and will feedback.
    Really? Let's be clear here. In the first place most of your colleagues are new and don't have this term - so not that large a number! A grievance- three months at most. Tribunal - fast tracked as a minor issue, about six months at most. Not that it's likely to get that far. The union won't take it because it's very likely a losing claim. So you'll be on your own unless you have legal insurance. Meanwhile you'll be finding work, legally, very uncomfortable. For the rest of the time you work there.

    The employer will almost certainly do this by the book - issue notice and offer you a new contract. You accept the new contract or you have no job at the end of your notice. Gone are the days when a union could call everyone out in your support. Your colleagues and everyone else will wave you goodbye on your way out of the door. So if the union can't negotiate this, you will be the loser. And they'll only be able to negotiate it if the employer isn't married to doing it in the first place. If the employer is set on doing it, they'll do it.
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