Applying for Civil Service jobs - EU citizen

john_st

Hi there.

I'm an EU citizen and even though Brexit is happening next April (or is it March?) as I understand there will be a transition period of a couple of years where EU citizens will more or less have the same rights they have today.

Now, I did work in the UK (2016) but the job was a disappointment and I returned to my country, so I'm not a complete novice. However, when it comes to applying for Civil Service jobs I'm as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Is it possible that I apply online and then just fly out for my interview(s)?

Also, are the salaries quoted before tax or after tax? I'm eyeing the absolute beginner level jobs so £ 20.000-ish a year basically.

Also also, I have a degree (a masters here, but maybe just a bachelors in the UK due to different education systems) in Maths and ICT, I'm fluent in both English and French with conversational Spanish. What branch of the Civil Service do you think I should aim for?

Thanks in advance :beer:

TELLIT01

The only part I can answer is the salary. It will be the gross figure i.e. before tax and National Insurance deductions.

john_st

TELLIT01 wrote: »

The only part I can answer is the salary. It will be the gross figure i.e. before tax and National Insurance deductions.

Thanks. That's helpful. :beer:

TELLIT01

One major problem to be overcome is that various security checks have to be made for anybody applying to join the Civil Service. If you are not living in the UK that is likely to prove difficult and may well lead to the application not being taken forward anyway.

[Deleted User]

john_st wrote: »

Hi there.

I'm an EU citizen and even though Brexit is happening next April (or is it March?) as I understand there will be a transition period of a couple of years where EU citizens will more or less have the same rights they have today.

Now, I did work in the UK (2016) but the job was a disappointment and I returned to my country, so I'm not a complete novice. However, when it comes to applying for Civil Service jobs I'm as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Is it possible that I apply online and then just fly out for my interview(s)?

Also, are the salaries quoted before tax or after tax? I'm eyeing the absolute beginner level jobs so £ 20.000-ish a year basically.

Also also, I have a degree (a masters here, but maybe just a bachelors in the UK due to different education systems) in Maths and ICT, I'm fluent in both English and French with conversational Spanish. What branch of the Civil Service do you think I should aim for?

Thanks in advance :beer:

Your thoughts on EU citizens rights is not quite right. There will be a transition period but rights only go to certain people in the country for x no years on the date we leave. https://eucitizensrights.campaign.gov.uk/ if not already in the Uk that wouldn't include you.

Doshwaster

TELLIT01 wrote: »

One major problem to be overcome is that various security checks have to be made for anybody applying to join the Civil Service. If you are not living in the UK that is likely to prove difficult and may well lead to the application not being taken forward anyway.

Citizens of EEA/EU countries are eligible (at least for now!) to apply for all Civil Service positions expect those where there is a national security exemption (e.g. GCHQ, MI6, Diplomatic Service etc)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/536134/civil_service-nationality_rules_20_june__2016.pdf

There should also be no restriction on applying for other public sector jobs in the NHS, local government etc.

TELLIT01

Doshwaster wrote: »

Citizens of EEA/EU countries are eligible (at least for now!) to apply for all Civil Service positions expect those where there is a national security exemption (e.g. GCHQ, MI6, Diplomatic Service etc)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/536134/civil_service-nationality_rules_20_june__2016.pdf

There should also be no restriction on applying for other public sector jobs in the NHS, local government etc.

I'm not saying they can't apply, just pointing out the potential problems.

john_st

TELLIT01 wrote: »

One major problem to be overcome is that various security checks have to be made for anybody applying to join the Civil Service. If you are not living in the UK that is likely to prove difficult and may well lead to the application not being taken forward anyway.

I had my DBS check done for my stint in 2016. At the time of applying for it I was living in Croatia and it was done before I arrived in the UK. I had to send the Croatian equivalent of a DBS to my employer but I'm not sure if it weighed in at all towards my UK DBS.

_shel wrote: »

Your thoughts on EU citizens rights is not quite right. There will be a transition period but rights only go to certain people in the country for x no years on the date we leave. https://eucitizensrights.campaign.gov.uk/ if not already in the Uk that wouldn't include you.

Hm... That does sound unfavourable.

Would my having a NIN and a UK bank account make any difference in my favour?

[Deleted User]

john_st wrote: »

I had my DBS check done for my stint in 2016. At the time of applying for it I was living in Croatia and it was done before I arrived in the UK. I had to send the Croatian equivalent of a DBS to my employer but I'm not sure if it weighed in at all towards my UK DBS.




Hm... That does sound unfavourable.

Would my having a NIN and a UK bank account make any difference in my favour?

No, you need to be physically present and exercising treaty rights in the Uk ie working.

grad101

You should check what security clearance you need for different departments. I just went through security clearance for the civil service and had to prove that I've been a resident in the UK continuously for the past 3 years. I had a middle level of clearance - for the higher security it can be up to 10 years, not sure what the requirements are for lower levels.