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Employer home visit after 4 days sick

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  • custardy wrote: »
    Sorry,but you are simply wrong.
    So someone goes off with 'workplace stress',you leave them off sick for whatever length of time.
    Then they come back and its all good?

    The Bible says so, and therefore we must abide by it as good Christians.

    I really fancy a bar of dairy milk now
  • stclair
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    It might be worth finding out what the company policy is on the matter and even laising with your union rep with regards to it.
    Im an ex employee RBS Group
    However Any Opinion Given On MSE Is Strictly My Own
  • Doshwaster
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    Thats simply a lie - If you were off work due to stress caused by your employer you would NOT want them to contact you - Indicates you have never actually felt physically sick just 'seeing' your work place come into view

    So how is a caring employer supposed to help you get back to work, reduce your stress levels and stop it happening to you (and others) again if you don't allow them to contact you?
  • custardy
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    Well Im disappointed this is all it took to get on Chris's ignore list.
    I generally make a much better job of it.

    Ahh what the hell


    No! Not for "whatever length of time." - for, As-Long-as-the-Doctor-says-so!!!!

    so after this time,they come back and everything is good?
  • ChrisK....._3
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    edited 11 September 2018 at 8:46AM
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    If I ruled the world.......
  • They're not! Your doctor will tell you when you are ready to go back to work. There is no need what so ever for an employer to contact a person suffering from work related stress so keep the questions coming
    Doshwaster wrote: »
    So how is a caring employer supposed to help you get back to work,....
    If I ruled the world.......
  • takman
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    They're not! Your doctor will tell you when you are ready to go back to work. There is no need what so ever for an employer to contact a person suffering from work related stress so keep the questions coming

    Several posters including myself have told you the reason why the employer needs to contact them; so they can understand what the issue is and resolve it before they return to work. If they don't resolve the root cause of the stress at work then it will just keep happening.

    Let's say you have an accident at work and cut your arm due to an unsafe part of the process. Using your logic the employer should not talk to you and ask you what happened or try and resolve the problem. Instead you should have time off until it is healed then when you come back and do the exact same job again your probably going to cut yourself again.
  • Nope they've given the invalid opinion which under questioning has no rational basis what so ever.
    issues can be resolved with the employer after the doctor has deemed it fit for them to return to work at which time they have a return to work review as everybody knows but of course it doesn't suit your argument to acknowledge these routines employment processes. there is no, zero, never any reason for an employer to contact an employee who is suffering from work related stress at home. None zero nada
    takman wrote: »
    Several posters including myself have told you the reason why the employer needs to contact them......

    ......
    If I ruled the world.......
  • Hello there,
    I am not getting any negative impression at all from the OP bit I wanted to chime in as I AM an employer and I had this exact situation.

    I had a "rolling sick note" from an employees doctor which meant she felt she was "untouchable" because she was off with stress. I should say the stress involved in this situation was not work related it was family/health related.

    I stayed in touch by letter and phone with this lady for almost a year. The employment contract laid out that we could stay in touch as we felt appropriate. I was recommneded to stay in touch via both ACAS and my solicitor so that I was seen to "walk the talk" of being a caring employer. I also had an employee benefit scheme which offered support in these types of cases.

    I should say I was always incredibly polite to this lady and asked permission to touch base with her. My company doesn't offer sick pay, simply SSP after 3 days but we have to administer it so it is important that we do things correctly and follow the process.

    The OP should be straight with her employer and if she feels unable to talk to them at the time of their call/visit she should advise them so and arrange a better time.

    Employers have host of things to consider - particularly if there was a serious incident and they need to ensure they're diligent in following that kind of thing up. The H&S Executive may be involved and the employer will have to meet their stringent criteria which may be why he is in touch so soon.

    ((hugs)) to you OP, I hope you start to feel safer soon
  • Hello there,
    I am not getting any negative impression at all from the OP bit I wanted to chime in as I AM an employer and I had this exact situation.

    I had a "rolling sick note" from an employees doctor which meant she felt she was "untouchable" because she was off with stress. I should say the stress involved in this situation was not work related it was family/health related.

    I stayed in touch by letter and phone with this lady for almost a year. The employment contract laid out that we could stay in touch as we felt appropriate. I was recommneded to stay in touch via both ACAS and my solicitor so that I was seen to "walk the talk" of being a caring employer. I also had an employee benefit scheme which offered support in these types of cases.

    I should say I was always incredibly polite to this lady and asked permission to touch base with her. My company doesn't offer sick pay, simply SSP after 3 days but we have to administer it so it is important that we do things correctly and follow the process.

    The OP should be straight with her employer and if she feels unable to talk to them at the time of their call/visit she should advise them so and arrange a better time.

    Employers have host of things to consider - particularly if there was a serious incident and they need to ensure they're diligent in following that kind of thing up. The H&S Executive may be involved and the employer will have to meet their stringent criteria which may be why he is in touch so soon.

    ((hugs)) to you OP, I hope you start to feel safer soon

    Quite.

    Obviously you, as an employer, will realise something that many readers here do not. It is the employer, not the government, that meets the full costs of SSP. The days when smaller employers could claim this back are long gone. So, in addition to having a job that needs doing the employer is paying c. £100 a week for nothing when an employee is off sick.
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