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New job offer

Hi
I Hope people can share there experiences and provide me with some useful advice

I have been working in my current role for 2.5 months and now i got another offer from a company near by my home.

The company i am currenlty working is a small family business with only 8 employees including me. and i am the only IT guy in the company so they rely on me for everything. When i joined this company they offered me a permanent position. However they have a very high staff turnover

The new company where i got the offer is a big multinational company with 2500 employees. the offer they sent me is an conditional offer subjected to satisfactory references.

This new company needs references one from my current company and one from the company before that. The company i worked before my current role i worked for them for 10 years so i wont any issue with there references. However i am worried about getting the reference from by current role. As they heavily rely on me and i have worked from them only from 2.5 months. so i am thinking they might can hold grudges for leaving and wouldn't provide me a reference.

Can people share there experience as what i can do in this situation as i dont want a situation where i give notice to my current employer and then my new company retract there offer.

I am going to talk to my current employer tomorrow , so any advice before that will be lot useful

thanks in advance
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  • As an employer I would rather an employee talked to me at the earliest opportunity. They shouldn't give a bad reference out of spite and you also have the right to view the reference provided by your employer where any 'inaccuracies ' could be seen.

    It sounds like you want to leave so reference requests are inevitable. Better to be on good terms and have everything out in the open.

    Ps
    Small businesses are often better to work for than larger ones (only my opinion).
  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    Hi
    I Hope people can share there experiences and provide me with some useful advice

    I have been working in my current role for 2.5 months and now i got another offer from a company near by my home.

    The company i am currenlty working is a small family business with only 8 employees including me. and i am the only IT guy in the company so they rely on me for everything. When i joined this company they offered me a permanent position. However they have a very high staff turnover

    The new company where i got the offer is a big multinational company with 2500 employees. the offer they sent me is an conditional offer subjected to satisfactory references.

    This new company needs references one from my current company and one from the company before that. The company i worked before my current role i worked for them for 10 years so i wont any issue with there references. However i am worried about getting the reference from by current role. As they heavily rely on me and i have worked from them only from 2.5 months. so i am thinking they might can hold grudges for leaving and wouldn't provide me a reference.

    Can people share there experience as what i can do in this situation as i dont want a situation where i give notice to my current employer and then my new company retract there offer.

    I am going to talk to my current employer tomorrow , so any advice before that will be lot useful

    thanks in advance


    Unfortunately, even if you got glowing references of both previous employers, the new employer could still retract their offer. Business plans change. So, you need to decide what your approach to risk is.


    You are currently only 2.5 months into employment so have no real job protection, the say your company has a high turnover and you are considering leaving too. Do you think it likely you will still be there in 6 months? 6 years?


    Presumably there is something attractive about the new company that makes you want to work there. Can you see yourself being there in 6 months time? 6 years?


    Your current company may choose to be difficult and refuse to give you a reference (there is no legal obligation to provide one) but most companies will at least confirm start and finish dates (your wage slips/ P60 will also confirm this too). What they cannot do, is lie on a reference.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • Masomnia
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    Staff do come and go, especially as you say they have a high turnover, so I'm sure they'll understand.

    Just explain it's nothing personal, the new job is nearer to home and you think that in hindsight you might be better suited to a big company, thanks for the opportunity etc.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Dox
    Dox Posts: 3,116 Forumite
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    i dont want a situation where i give notice to my current employer and then my new company retract there offer.

    Nothing you can do to stop that happening (and your new employer could sack you pretty swiftly if your face doesn't fit).

    If you are as important as you believe to your current employer why would they not then let you retract your resignation...?
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    Given that in the last 3 months you've been offered your current job and a new one it appears that you have something that employers are looking for, so even if you do leave this one and something causes the new one to be withdrawn you would still hopefully be able to get another offer pretty quickly.
  • Short term work references do not hold the same as a reference from a longer term employer.
  • hi everyone , thanks for your reply and advice.

    Do you think instead of employer reference if i can give my colleague reference from my current job, will that work as well?
  • TELLIT01
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    I can understand that your current employer won't be too happy, but that shouldn't mean they will provide a bad reference. Many references these days simply give start date, finish date if applicable and job title or duties.
    As a matter of interest, are you enjoying the job you are currently doing but concerned about high staff turnover, or not particularly happy in the job anyway?
    Edited to add:. If the new employer is asking for employer references that's what you need to provide. You could include your colleague as a personal referee.
  • nicechap
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    edited 2 September 2018 at 2:26PM
    hi everyone , thanks for your reply and advice.

    Do you think instead of employer reference if i can give my colleague reference from my current job, will that work as well?


    You certainly can, whether your prospective employer will be satisfied we cannot answer. You can always caveat it by explaining your current employer is only a short term thing and may be reluctant to provide one so the college is an extra one to help them.


    Personally, I'd just suck it up and give the present employer notice, they should be used to giving references if staff turnover is high.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • JReacher1
    JReacher1 Posts: 4,664 Forumite
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    If you have only been there for two and a half months they must have been able to manage without you before.

    Personally I would resign tomorrow morning and just explain the new job has better career prospects and is closer to home. Most people do not hold grudges if you resign in the correct manner
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