What would my job title be?

mandyboops1973

Hi i am planning to go self employed, basically my partner is a delivery driver and my job will be to organize the delivery's based on efficient routes for example,we will be using a website where you can select from a list of delivery's people want making, so if you are traveling from say london to Manchester my job is to select and organize deliveries along that route, which is quite tricky and time consuming to do when you don't know every areas name and location, the last thing you want to it accept a job thats way off course.

I am wondering what i should list my job title as when i start doing this?

spadoosh

Logistics co-ordinator. Or PA.

[Deleted User]

RouteMaster.

elsien

Administrator?

ohreally

Your self employed, what does it matter?

[Deleted User]

Route Controller. Or Customer Service Assistant title seems to be the current trend

mandyboops1973

ohreally wrote: »

Your self employed, what does it matter?

its for insurance purposes they ask for a specific job title.

bugslet

I know I'm going to sound rude, I'm not trying to, but there isn't anyway else to ask what you are going to do with other 7.5 hours of your working day and how it's going to pay you a wage.

I'm saying this as someone that was a self employed van driver at one point. I accept that initially if you don't know where places are it may take a bit more time, but after a few weeks, you should be able to know based on a postcode broadly where things are and do what I can do which is look at these sites and go no, no, no, yes, no, maybe, no.

And I can't see how it can pay you a full time wage - I know a company with 80 vehicles that has four office staff, to plan, organise, employ, liaise with customers, maintain, do H&S, quality and in their case maintain an Operators license. I've never asked quite how many people plan the job, but I suspect two.

Job title is Planner BTW.

Sorry, to sound a bit rude, but it isn't making sense to me from a business perspective.

ohreally

mandyboops1973 wrote: »

its for insurance purposes they ask for a specific job title.

Go with the title returning the best quote.

spadoosh

bugslet wrote: »

I know I'm going to sound rude, I'm not trying to, but there isn't anyway else to ask what you are going to do with other 7.5 hours of your working day and how it's going to pay you a wage.

I'm saying this as someone that was a self employed van driver at one point. I accept that initially if you don't know where places are it may take a bit more time, but after a few weeks, you should be able to know based on a postcode broadly where things are and do what I can do which is look at these sites and go no, no, no, yes, no, maybe, no.

And I can't see how it can pay you a full time wage - I know a company with 80 vehicles that has four office staff, to plan, organise, employ, liaise with customers, maintain, do H&S, quality and in their case maintain an Operators license. I've never asked quite how many people plan the job, but I suspect two.

Job title is Planner BTW.

Sorry, to sound a bit rude, but it isn't making sense to me from a business perspective.

It makes perfect sense if your trying to reduce the amount of tax you pay. Be a self employed driver, as an expense to reduce your profit take on your partner who is a self employed 'planner'. Off set as much against profits as you can (things like them both needing separate rooms in the house to do their work) whilst divvying the drivers pay among two individuals.

They would of course have to be very careful how they approach it because they could quite easily end up breaking the law. Thats not saying they are or will but without the relevant care and attention it could easily happen.

The first thing they need to be looking at in those regards is that the OP is actually defined by HMRC as self employed. It sounds more like they will be an employee.

sangie595

spadoosh wrote: »

It makes perfect sense if your trying to reduce the amount of tax you pay. Be a self employed driver, as an expense to reduce your profit take on your partner who is a self employed 'planner'. Off set as much against profits as you can (things like them both needing separate rooms in the house to do their work) whilst divvying the drivers pay among two individuals.

They would of course have to be very careful how they approach it because they could quite easily end up breaking the law. Thats not saying they are or will but without the relevant care and attention it could easily happen.

The first thing they need to be looking at in those regards is that the OP is actually defined by HMRC as self employed. It sounds more like they will be an employee.

I agree. "That's not self employment" was my first thought also.

OP you both need to think about this carefully. You cannot simply decide that you are self employed. And, frankly, you need to both think very carefully about whether working together is in your own long term interests - we only recently had a thread on how well that worked out for someone (not!). Whatever you claim now, if, somewhere down the line, HMRC, you, or someone else decides you aren't self employed, you and your partner could end up in a lot of trouble, financially or otherwise.

You could end up owing tax or national insurance, and you do not want to mess with HMRC. You need a place of business - is that your home? So you've told your home insurers, you've informed council tax that you are running a business from that address...? You've run health and safety risk assessments - if you trip over a trailing wire that becomes a workplace accident and your partner could be liable...

Of course none of this matters because you are deeply in love and you would never end up separating, suing each other, or locked in a acrimonious argument. That never happens to anyone! Nobody ever "rats out" their ex partner!

Seriously, think this through, and if your are going to do it, do it properly.