Sleep in shift not part of contracted hours?

ACG

JReacher1 wrote: »

Is it really a 52 hour week when you are asleep for 16 hours of it?

If work send me on a business trip should the hours I am asleep in the hotel be classed as hours of my working week?

Surely that is different. You can go to bed at night knowing you do not need to work until the morning.

The person who started the thread is going to bed knowing that they may need to get up in the night or worse, if they do not and something bad happens, they will be at least partially to blame and all for the sum of £2 an hour? I would prefer to go home and get a proper nights sleep personally.

If I was paying for a company to care after a relative of mine, I am not sure I would be overly impressed if I found out that someone tasked with caring after my relative was being treated like this.

elsien

£33 for 8 hours - that will be the rate for one sleep in.

It's not a lot. But people are not willing to pay higher taxes for the social care system. Can't have it both ways.
It won't be older people. It will most likely be people with learning or physical disabilities in small group home or supported living settings who don't generally have the resources to self fund and who are funded by the local authority.

scd3scd4

elsien wrote: »

£33 for 8 hours - that will be the rate for one sleep in.

It's not a lot. But people are not willing to pay higher taxes for the social care system. Can't have it both ways.
It won't be older people. It will most likely be people with learning or physical disabilities who don't generally have the resources to self fund and who are funded by the local authority.

That argument can be used for everything. Its not that people are not willing. They need to feed themselves and put a roof over their children's heads. We are taxed plenty already.

Takeaway_Addict

scd3scd4 wrote: »

£33 for 16 hours is nothing in my book.............

then you book clearly isn't a mathmatics one...

getmore4less

re: sleeping on the job and sleepins

Royal Mencap Society v Tomlinson-Blake

Worth a read of the various summaries(or the full case if you want) as this case does not apply to all sleeping situation and has just raised a load more questions on the subject.

marliepanda

Usually if the hours awake ‘add up’ then it is paid for at the normal rate. However, many sleep ins are just that, sleep.

A disability will not exclude you from this. I’m sorry but care work does not seem to be suitable for you. My friend does it and works very long tiring shifts, but it is offset by the fact he usually gets 4 days off a week, whereas me on my 9-5 only gets 2.

scd3scd4

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

then you book clearly isn't a mathmatics one...

And diction, punctuation or grammar your book.


Its a silly game but I will play along it you want.

getmore4less

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Maybe if you have to get up and help some old person get back in bed or use the toilet.


If my company ask me to stay on site and sleep in case they need me on the plant.............is that ok for nothing?

That is where these cases have been coming from.

That specific example is excluded from any wages, min wage 2015 32(2)

Takeaway_Addict

scd3scd4 wrote: »

And diction, punctuation or grammar your book.


Its a silly game but I will play along it you want.

I never claimed it to be unlike you.

Also, you edited...what did you get wrong?

scd3scd4

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

I never claimed it to be unlike you.

Also, you edited...what did you get wrong?

Apology accepted. ;-]....dismissed. ;-]