We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Endowment cash in?

Norlye
Norlye Posts: 17 Forumite
Sixth Anniversary 10 Posts
edited 24 August 2018 at 8:13AM in Mortgages & endowments
Hello, 1st post.

Asking for thoughts.

My wife & I have a endowment policy, originally taken out for a mortgage, but we have changed to a full repayment mortgage so the endowment is now a windfall only. Good job really as it is looking to be approximately a 1/3 short on what was originally promised/ guesstimated.

Anyway, it is due to mature next May, 2 months post Brexit. I guess the stock market is going to go down regardless of what happens. As of yesterday it was worth £40k. Do people think it is best to get out & possibly quit whilst we are ahead, or do we lose significantly more by quitting early. I have read about final bonuses, but are they enough to cover a possible 10% short term drop in the stock market that I guess will effect us so soon after Brexit. We have no interest in re investing as we are now financially in a good place & this is to spend!!

Thank you for any thoughts.

Comments

  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,611 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Stick with it , there's no point in cashing it in a year early
    Ex forum ambassador

    Long term forum member
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,009 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    I guess the stock market is going to go down regardless of what happens.

    It may do. It may not.
    Do people think it is best to get out & possibly quit whilst we are ahead, or do we lose significantly more by quitting early.

    We do not have access to your policy terms. You do. So, what is the cost of early surrender?
    I have read about final bonuses, but are they enough to cover a possible 10% short term drop in the stock market that I guess will effect us so soon after Brexit.

    Is yours with profits or unit linked?
    You dont get final bonuses on unit linked plans (unless its a unitised with profits fund).

    Why do you think Brexit will be negative on your value?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Norlye
    Norlye Posts: 17 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 10 Posts
    edited 24 August 2018 at 10:26AM
    The endowment is a Homebuyer plus. Its a with profits policy.

    When I spoke to Axa, yesterday, they now have the policy ,they gave me a surrender value of £38800. I just guessed that’s ish what I would get if I started to cash it in soon

    Everyone I know associated with industry, these include friends more than tv talking heads, think Brexit is a bad idea & will impact negatively in the short term.

    So just thinking this will impact on my value as some of the units bought will go down in value.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,009 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Everyone I know associated with industry, these include friends more than tv talking heads, think Brexit is a bad idea & will impact negatively in the short term.

    Correct in respect of short term issues. Which is why investment values rose after the referendum result. The markets viewed it negatively. Sterling went down which pushed global investment values up.
    So just thinking this will impact on my value as some of the units bought will go down in value.

    A bad Brexit will likely see your value rise. A good Brexit could well see your value fall.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • I have had a number of endowment policies that have matured. Surrendering when so close to the end does not make sense to me. I assume the policy value has a number of components. The sum insured is payed at the end of the contract and is a guaranteed sum. If you cancel early this amount is reduced. In the old days this would be a hefty penalty but I am not so sure in the modern regulated climate. My policies attracted bonuses which once added could not be taken away. The cream on top of the cake was a final bonus which increased the value of the accumulated bonuses. This went down over the years reflecting the reduction in interest rates. My first matured policy paid out over 500% of the sum insured the last one last year just 300%. Last years maturity was more than the surrender value showing prior to maturity. I can't see Brexit having a big influence as your policy is not directly linked to stock market investments.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.