Handed notice in at work - Advice?

StevenB12

Carrot007 wrote: »

Why did you not give it back when you left? Would have been the sane option.


No reason for anyone to give you anything. You made the problem. Moving jobs always incurs extra costs. Deal with it.

Yes because I often have fellow staff living at my house when I make decision to leave so clearly I would just hand my gear over to another engineer living in my spare room to take it back for me. Bravo.

As I would like to put to you. I am dealing with it. Asking for advice is not a form of surrender and letting the problem be, is it?

StevenB12

Comms69 wrote: »

Ask them to arrange a courier pick up?

Already asked the question, I told them to just take the money out of my final pay for any courier charges that they wish to use but they didn't want to go ahead with that option.

Comms69

StevenB12 wrote: »

Already asked the question, I told them to just take the money out of my final pay for any courier charges that they wish to use but they didn't want to go ahead with that option.

I assume you did this verbally over the phone' I suspect if you offered in writing (and therefore have evidence) you would get a very different answer.

StevenB12

Comms69 wrote: »

I assume you did this verbally over the phone' I suspect if you offered in writing (and therefore have evidence) you would get a very different answer.

Done via phone and email. All of my communication to the office manager is via email. Team leader & line manager is via the phone. Office manager never answers so was always easier to email lol.

My reply was basically we can't deduct money from your wages because then I would have a case if I was inclined to say they short paid me, which is fair enough from that view point.

BrassicWoman

So
- you send it
- you borrow £65 (rare occasion when I'd probably think about a payday loan company)
- you ask a mate to return it

But right now you've dropped them in it with no notice and kept all of their kit.

I would probably withhold wages too. Your problem to sort, not theirs.

Undervalued

This is one of those instances where, regardless of the legal rights and wrongs, they have the upper hand. If they refuse to pay you until the equipment is safely returned what can you actually do?

Sue them? Yes in theory but it will take a significant amount of time, particularly if they dig their heels in and you have to take steps to enforce judgement.

So, I see little practical alternative but to either take the equipment back yourself (and make sure they sign for it!) or send it, initially at your expense, via a properly insured courier. You may have an argument, depending on your contract, to reclaim the cost from them and, if necessary, could do so via the small claims court.

I assume you will never want a reference from them? You are after all in breach of contract if you left without notice. If they really wanted to they could claim against you for any unavoidable losses that has caused.

StevenB12

BrassicWoman wrote: »

So
- you send it
- you borrow £65 (rare occasion when I'd probably think about a payday loan company)
- you ask a mate to return it

But right now you've dropped them in it with no notice and kept all of their kit.

I would probably withhold wages too. Your problem to sort, not theirs.

If they wanted to withhold the wages to the price of the kit I'm more than fine with that until they get it back, and they've already been told that. The gear that they are getting back is basically all clothing that will not be going to anyone else, it all gets trashed basically, again fair enough that they want it back for their records, but getting a back a week later than they would like for it to be binned, at least in my opinion there should be a bit of scope to give the extra time.

StevenB12

Undervalued wrote: »

This is one of those instances where, regardless of the legal rights and wrongs, they have the upper hand. If they refuse to pay you until the equipment is safely returned what can you actually do?

Sue them? Yes in theory but it will take a significant amount of time, particularly if they dig their heels in and you have to take steps to enforce judgement.

So, I see little practical alternative but to either take the equipment back yourself (and make sure they sign for it!) or send it, initially at your expense, via a properly insured courier. You may have an argument, depending on your contract, to reclaim the cost from them and, if necessary, could do so via the small claims court.

I assume you will never want a reference from them? You are after all in breach of contract if you left without notice. If they really wanted to they could claim against you for any unavoidable losses that has caused.

On the contract side of it, and I read it, and re-read it, and re-read that re reading lol. There's no notice period needed if you decide to leave within your first 3 months/probation period. After your first 3 months you are required to give a minimum of 2 weeks notice subject to managers discretion.

This is why they were fine with me leaving with no notice, it's pretty much just come down to the fact that they needed a letter in writing for their records and gear etc back. Rather than them needed time to find someone else etc.

ReadingTim

StevenB12 wrote: »

Nearest office to me is 5 hours away, hence why I haven't dropped it off already lol.

Suspect you're just going to have to suck it up then. lol

BrassicWoman

StevenB12 wrote: »

If they wanted to withhold the wages to the price of the kit I'm more than fine with that until they get it back, and they've already been told that. The gear that they are getting back is basically all clothing that will not be going to anyone else, it all gets trashed basically, again fair enough that they want it back for their records, but getting a back a week later than they would like for it to be binned, at least in my opinion there should be a bit of scope to give the extra time.

But, your opinion does not count here. Harsh but true.

You appear to want someone to tell you that you have the law on your side. You really don't.

Stop kicking up and just get the stuff sent back!