Civil Service Fast Stream or Big 4 (Deloitte) Graduate Scheme

Szac8549

But yeah i appreciate promotion isnt automatic, you still have to apply.

silvercar

Starting Salary is 28000 for 3-4 years but then goes to 45000-55000 after completing the scheme.

I suspect this is true, but doubt there is much promotion opportunity past that. 45-55k would be grade 7. Promotion higher would take a few years further experience minimum and a lot of luck opportunity. Not sure what higher level opportunities would be in Manchester.

In deloitte I would be in Tax in the Manchester office. Starting salary is 21,000

That looks a low starting salary for that role, are you sure it is right?

Szac8549

Positive, i was hoping/expecting it was going to be more too. My friend at kpmg is on the same too though. Think in London it must be more because ive always read online about grad salaries being 25k+in the big 4

Szac8549

Yes ive thought the same about opportunities after grade 7. Deloitte is the one thatd be in manchester, not sure where the CS one would be yet. Im not from manchester so that wouldn't be my preferred area anyway. I really dont mind where I am though as long as it's not too expensive i.e. london!

TrickyDicky101

In terms of exit opportunities after 4 years a professional qualification from a Big 4 firm beats the heck out of 4 years of experience in the CS in my opinion. That professional qualification is recognised by everyone and fully transferable across industries.

Doshwaster

Szac8549 wrote: »

Positive, i was hoping/expecting it was going to be more too. My friend at kpmg is on the same too though. Think in London it must be more because ive always read online about grad salaries being 25k+in the big 4

Yes, as long as you think you can cope with a very competitive working environment, long hours and hard work. A lot of graduates will do 3-4 years at the Big Four as the professional training is excellent and the job looks good on their CV, then move to a mid-size firm where the pace of life is a little more gentle. Smaller companies don't have the resources to invest so much in training fresh graduates so they like to pick up people with a few years worth of experience from elsewhere.

Smellyonion

When you work in private industry your eyes will open when you join the CS.


CS is generally more for people in the middle to end of their careers. Pay is low, work/life is great, pension is great, efficiency and innovation are seriously lacking.

Pennywise

CS will be fine if you're a plodder, happy with a fair salary, good perks, relatively easy life, etc.

Deloitte will suit you more if you're a high flyer, work hard, play hard, get the qualifications, get the promotions, and ultimately a partnership paying £silly money.

silvercar

Szac8549 wrote: »

Positive, i was hoping/expecting it was going to be more too. My friend at kpmg is on the same too though. Think in London it must be more because ive always read online about grad salaries being 25k+in the big 4

Someone I know is starting the kpmg grad scheme in London next week with a starting salary of 28.5k. 22k for Manchester sounds a very big differential.

Szac8549

It does but j guess house prices and the cost of living is about that much difference