JSA and Job Offer

Comms69

PJQueen wrote: »

Overdrafting for hotel costs and travel home at the weekends seems a little financially irresponsible when I may only be there a week - I would receive the pay for that week, yes but it may not cover all of the expenses. Thank you for the idea though

But it's fine for the taxpayer to be 'irresponsible'?


Time for big boy/girl pants on and take the plunge.


(or not, I'm with Sangie - if the employer is running training, presumably for lots of people - they would just hire accommodation for the group)

marliepanda

sangie595 wrote: »

I'd add "payment in arrears?" to my list of reasonable doubts about this so called employer and their so called training. This screams that there's something wrong here.

You've only been claiming JSA for a couple of weeks. Most schemes that will help are for the long term unemployed.

You can always ask, but as said, you've been claiming for two weeks, surely you should have some of last months wages to cover some train fares?

If they are paying your train fare and your mon-fri costs, what do you need the JSA help for? Like a loan you would repay?

PJQueen

Comms69 wrote: »

But it's fine for the taxpayer to be 'irresponsible'?


Time for big boy/girl pants on and take the plunge.


(or not, I'm with Sangie - if the employer is running training, presumably for lots of people - they would just hire accommodation for the group)

Of which I was one until fairly recently. I don't think your comment is helpful at all.

Comms69

PJQueen wrote: »

Of which I was one until fairly recently. I don't think your comment is helpful at all.

That's fine, take it how you want.


I don't see what relevance it is whether you paid taxes or not - it's not a savings account.


I'm just saying that it's up to you to find a job; this is the one you want and there's a cost involved. (and I reiterate it makes no sense for an employer to reimburse 'hotel costs' - seemingly with no guidance or limit - when they could block book rooms at a discount)

PJQueen

marliepanda wrote: »

You can always ask, but as said, you've been claiming for two weeks, surely you should have some of last months wages to cover some train fares?

If they are paying your train fare and your mon-fri costs, what do you need the JSA help for? Like a loan you would repay?

Last months wages have covered household bills whilst my claim was being setup.

Yes, exactly. I am aware there is a Advisor Discretionary Fund, and as the company would be reimbursing the cost at some point, I wondered if I could apply to this and then repay the amount given. As I stated, I will discuss with my job coach.

PJQueen

Comms69 wrote: »

That's fine, take it how you want.


I don't see what relevance it is whether you paid taxes or not - it's not a savings account.


I'm just saying that it's up to you to find a job; this is the one you want and there's a cost involved. (and I reiterate it makes no sense for an employer to reimburse 'hotel costs' - seemingly with no guidance or limit - when they could block book rooms at a discount)

It may make no sense - there are many thing is in life that do not. However, that is the case, and if I was offered a job, it may not be the correct moment to challenge it. In addition, I didn't state there has been no guidance. Merely that I am unable to afford the cost upfront at present.

So my question was two fold:

1. ideas for raising said cash, including any government grants I may be eligible for.

and

2. If I am unable to afford the cost, and subsequently have to decline the job offer on that basis, would I be sanctioned?

Savvy_Sue

PJQueen wrote: »

2. If I am unable to afford the cost, and subsequently have to decline the job offer on that basis, would I be sanctioned?

I don't think anyone can answer that. A decision maker makes that decision, and it may or may not appear reasonable to them. You could ask your job coach.

I'd speak to the employer and say that you are unable to meet the full costs of the residential training up front, and ask if they are able to help with that, or give an advance on your first month's wages. Ideally, I'd ask if it could be repaid over two months as I'm guessing you're completely at the limit of your financial resources, but there's no guarantee they'd agree to that.

I'd rather do that than approach friends, because the employer will recover the advance from your wages without any difficulty, so it will never become a saga or rift with a friend.

PJQueen

Savvy_Sue,

That is excellent advice and exactly what I was looking for - having never been in this position I hadn’t even thought of the advance. Thank you!

Of course I will also speak to my job coach at my next visit.

xapprenticex

JCP will help with travel for a week or two, must be public transport, they dont help with petrol. They wont help with hotel costs.

PJQueen

Thanks apprentice!

I will ask at my next about the travel part at my next appointment.