London Overground train design 16 August 2018 at 10:09AM in Public transport & cycling 13 replies 1.9K views

wallofbeans

Weird question but --

Does anyone know if there are trains with a similar layout to London Overground - ie seats along both sides of the train facing each other - in other parts of the UK? And if so, where?

Thanks.

Head_The_Ball

Do you mean Underground trains as used on the London Underground or Tube system?

elverson

Apart from London Underground which has lots of trains in this layout, there are at least two others:

Class 345 on TfL Rail / Crossrail have a mixture of transverse and longitudinal seating, as shown in this picture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Class_345_interior_7th_July_2017_02.jpg

Class 483 used on the Isle of Wight also have a mix, as shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:483004_Interior.JPG (These are ex-London Underground trains now operating as part of National Rail).

wallofbeans

Head_The_Ball wrote: »

Do you mean Underground trains as used on the London Underground or Tube system?

No, I mean the Overground Trains - the orange line on the tube/train map - but they are a similar layout to the Tube trains. I'm looking for trains that (mostly) stay overground.

wallofbeans

elverson wrote: »

Apart from London Underground which has lots of trains in this layout, there are at least two others:

Class 345 on TfL Rail / Crossrail have a mixture of transverse and longitudinal seating, as shown in this picture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Class_345_interior_7th_July_2017_02.jpg

Class 483 used on the Isle of Wight also have a mix, as shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:483004_Interior.JPG (These are ex-London Underground trains now operating as part of National Rail).

Thank you! I'm looking for outside of London trains so Isle of Wight trains are interesting...

wallofbeans

Does anyone know what other cities commuter train layouts are like? Manchester for example?

Johnmcl7

wallofbeans wrote: »

Does anyone know what other cities commuter train layouts are like? Manchester for example?

Manchester use trams which have a conventional layout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M5000

Northern who provide the train services in Manchester and much of that region use a variety of Pacer's, Sprinters and a few EMUs all which use a conventional layout as well with 3+2 seating for the denser services:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Rail_(Serco-Abellio)#Current_Fleet

Merseyrail for Liverpool use 507's/508's also with a conventional layout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseyrail#Current_fleet

I did wonder what seating arrangement the class 230's were using as they are ex Underground stock to be used normal mainline stock but also use a normal layout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_230

The Glasgow underground services use the same layout as the London underground trains:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Subway_rolling_stock

Scotrail have a mix of Sprinters and EMUs for commuter services which are 3+2 or 2+2 seating.

John

Exile_geordie

wallofbeans wrote: »

Does anyone know what other cities commuter train layouts are like? Manchester for example?

Lots of European cities have seating longitudinal

colcheslad

How about the Stourbridge Branch line, with the Parry People Mover? :beer:

agrinnall

Edinburgh trams have a mix of forward, backwards and longitudinal seating. I think Nottingham may be the same.



West Midlands Railways trains on the cross city line in Birmingham are all conventional seating.

elverson

Johnmcl7 wrote: »

Northern who provide the train services in Manchester and much of that region use a variety of Pacer's, Sprinters and a few EMUs all which use a conventional layout as well with 3+2 seating for the denser services:

I think some of the Pacers (Class 142/143/144) have a short section of fold-down longitudinal seating by one of the doors, to provide a wider area for wheelchairs, pushchairs, bikes etc. You can sort of see it in the corner of this pic: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:143617_Interior_2.JPG

Also TransPennine Class 185s have a short section by the accessible toilet, again with fold-down seats.