Difficult choices re old v new job

Potbellypig

I'd move, personally. Sounds like you've got better prospects at this new job, and you'll be tested within your new surroundings, be it within your role or creating new relationships. Life is short.

For the record, I work from home twice a week. It isn't all what it's cracked up to be. You'll love it at first, but then you'll find you barely get anything done and it gets super boring after a couple of years. Then you'll find you'll end up doing no work on your 'WFH' days and cram it all into the days you're in the office.

maurice28

I was in a similar position about five years ago. I'd been in my job for three years and although I loved the people I worked with, it was just getting a bit stale. I felt I wasn't being exposed to work that would keep me up to date in the industry (I worked for a PR agency and didn't get to do much digital/social media based work etc.)

I applied for and got a new job which offered a £3k pay rise, but more than that the work and organisation sounded more interesting. I handed in my notice and my current employer offered me a £7k pay rise and promised to move me to a role that was more digital-based, as I had told them this was the main reason for wanting to leave.

I carefully considered it but in the end, decided to leave. In my head I was ready for a new challenge and new surroundings and I could just see myself getting itchy feet again not far down the line.

In the end, I only spent a year at the new place as it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. But I used the skills and experience I picked up in that year and got another job, earning £3k more than I would have if I'd taken the PR agency's counter offer, so it did work out in the end.

I would say if your main motivation for leaving is that you want a new challenge, then go for it and move (and maybe use the counter offer to try and drive up the salary at your new place!)

Les79

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Who is more sound financially?

I like this question.

Whenever I apply for, and get to the interview stages, for ltd companies I always check their companies house accounts. Especially their latest accounts to see how much money they are making + their outlook statement.

Nice insight.

bmjv

getmore4less wrote: »

You have 1/2 answered the questions I was going to raise.

I am always wary of the counter offers because it should have been there anyway if you are good/they want you.

if you have been relatively passive in the current place and just gone with the flow even though you wanted some modernization and have not been asking for rises then that has to change if you stay you need to be much more assertive in progressing within the organization.


What you have to realize is this is not a choice of old job or the new job this needs to be a choice between two new jobs and if you stay make sure this new job materializes.

don't wait till you make the choice start now,
This new work what is it, you need a list of projects and when they will start,
when can the work from home start next week?

This pay rise if I am that important lets have this back dated to start of August how do we make that happen now.

looking forward
Depends what you do, but adding value and getting rewarded needs to to start happening no more passive, look for the client you want to work with any project you want to be working on, get involved and drive what you do.

Some clients are going to like the traditional professional approach could be there is a niche and your places captures that client base can you build on that.


I would look closely at where you want this job to go can, you become more than just another person that works there doing stuff.

if office space if cramped is there a need for some more work from home with hot desking could that be something you instigate and get working.

Can you investigate the reluctance to move office and see if there are solutions.

Plenty of things to think about but to reiterate this is comparing 2 new jobs

Thanks for this. I have been thinking I need the "old" job to change if I am going to make it work. I probably have been a little passive (just my nature) and I need to assert myself more on the company and try and get them to change a few of their ways.

bmjv

ReadingTim wrote: »

How easily did you find the new job? How buoyant is the market where you are? If you found the new job with relative ease, then you could always accept the counter-offer, take the higher pay, and see if the other things materialise over the next 6-12 months. If they do, great, if they don't, it'll be easy to find another role.

However, if things aren't too great, you need to more carefully evaluate the extent to which your current boss will meet his promises - words are cheap, after all...

To be honest, I started just looking, got 3 or 4 interviews and then BAM! got an offer which I thought could be good. So you could say there was/is a decent market.

bmjv

Thank you for all the replies.

It was a really hard decision but (if anyone cares!) I have decided to stay on and see where we can go. I think it will be "easier" to look for another job in 6 months to a year's time if things don't look better, than moving now and there is no way "back".

Thanks again for the replies.

parking_question_chap

bmjv wrote: »

In hindsight I maybe should have had this discussion before I handed in my notice (though I did ask for more things to do previously and it never materialised), but then maybe I wouldn't have had the leverage now (though getting "leverage" obviously wasn't my intention!), and he probably wouldn't have taken much notice (pardon the pun!). It is annoying that you have to hand your notice in to realise you are valued.

I think you did the right thing, but now with the counter offer it sounds like you would be better off staying put. Plus your empoyer now knows you might walk out one day and so will be more inclined to keep you happy.


I am very much a work to live type person. So if they are letting you work from home more and giving you more money, its a no brainer in my opinion.

PasturesNew

Keep the old job.... package sounds generous.

Better the devil you know, especially as they're showing how valuable you are to them.

On the other hand ... maybe they're planning on selling off their book to a competitor and just don't want their current position to be jeopardised by you leaving in the next 3-4 months while they negotiate terms of sale...

You can't trust employers .... is their offer "too generous" to trust?

shortcrust

A work place with letters instead of emails sounds like bliss to me!:)