SSP - sick on non-working days

General_Grant

I thought the first 3 days of a PIW included non-working days but the gov.uk calculator says someone who was first ill on a Thursday and who doesn't normally work on Friday or Saturday doesn't qualify for any sick pay as he returned to work on Monday and was sick for only two working days. (Thursday and Sunday). [He does normally work to a set pattern but I believe his contact actually says his working days are Sunday to Saturday because it is a 24/7 working environment.]

Please don't suggest he simply wanted a long weekend - he turned up for work on the Thursday but was vomitting and had to go home part-way through his shift.

Was I wrong that non-working days count in a PIW and though the fourth day was a working day, he doesn't receive any sick pay?

sangie595

This seems to suggest that you are wrong https://www.gov.uk/guidance/statutory-sick-pay-manually-calculate-your-employees-payments

To be honest, I was surprised. I also thought that it was the first three days full stop. Apparently not.

General_Grant

sangie595 wrote: »

This seems to suggest that you are wrong https://www.gov.uk/guidance/statutory-sick-pay-manually-calculate-your-employees-payments

To be honest, I was surprised. I also thought that it was the first three days full stop. Apparently not.

Yes. That link includes, "

A period of sickness lasting 4 days or more in a row. All days of sickness count towards the total number of days in a PIW, including bank holidays, weekends and non working days.

"

sangie595

Yes, but you can only pay SSP for qualifying days, and if he doesn't work on the Sunday then it isn't a qualifying day for payment. So, effectively, if someone works Monday - Friday, and is sick Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, SSP isn't paid until Monday. Which means that they really wait five days.