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Disciplinary hearing or resignation?

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  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,553 Forumite
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    edited 31 July 2018 at 12:09PM
    Sssssss wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm so sorry to hear that your company is giving you a hard time when you are clearly suffering.

    I've been there myself, in fact my GP even recommended that I go away for awhile, change of air would do me good.

    A few things come to mind

    1. your GP signed you off, he knows you and your health problems. Your company or team leader or customer have no right to question this!

    2. Do not quit, you've done nothing wrong.


    3. Clearly if you are going home crying that is not right, please go back and see your GP and get signed off. 3 months is not long enough to pull your life back together after a breakdown.

    Be strong, think of you health first!

    1. Whilst having a sick (fit) note from your GP is a reasonably strong piece of evidence that you are unwell it is not absolute by any means. A company is certainly entitled to question it, consider other evidence or ask for a second opinion.

    2. The OP has done something wrong if they went away on holiday whilst off sick without seeking the approval of their company. Under such circumstances it may well have been a beneficial thing to do and something a reasonable company may well have agreed to, had they been asked. But that is not, as I understand it, what happened.

    I do however agree with your point No 3.

    I would also echo and reinforce Sangie's paragraph.....
    And has helpfully provided the employer with evidence of that fact thanks to their social media posts. Social media posts, if your are intent on using it, should always be set on private, and even doing that won't help if your are daft enough to think that your customers and your employers / colleagues/ managers are your friends. How often do people need to get ratted out by people they friended before they learn that lesson?

    Never ever assume that anything you post on the internet is private and can't be traced back to you. Sadly anybody can fall out with a "friend" (or relative) and even if they haven't actually fallen out a colleague can be placed in a very difficult position between their loyalty to a "friend" and their duty to their employer if they find what they consider to be evidence of wrong doing.

    Remember that claiming to be sick when you are not is defrauding your employer of a substantial amount of money. Even if you only get SSP it is still c. £100 pounds a week cost to the employer. You would quickly get arrested for stealing that amount under other circumstances.

    I am not suggesting for a moment that the OP here is fabricating their illness. However what they have done, unwittingly, is published information that quite understandably gives rise to that suspicion.
  • Bmaiia wrote: »

    Do I hand in my notice before the hearing, just to get myself out of the toxic environment and for my own mental health? Or do I sit through the hearing and get an outcome and then appeal/tribunal?

    :(

    If you have worked at the place for any length of time - make them do the moves as hard as that is.

    I could be and hope I'm wrong but you may play out guilty in resigning and then have no agreement re future references - which seems 'in' fashion at the moment.

    I really don't know, even when I resigned after a company intention to serve notice recently on an FTC serving it's time, I wasn't pursued for holiday pay like I thought I would be.

    I know family member saw their agreed reference at appeal to dismissal meeting with long service behind them - I think they got more closure as upsetting as it got.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Going through a disciplinary doesn't forcibly mean it will end up in being sacked, although it is usually used for that purpose, I do know a few people who've been through it, pleaded their case and just got a warning.

    Whether they have reason to think that you abused their sickness policy or not will depend on what you told them about your illness, ie. how stress was affecting you etc... and the timescales of it, ie. how much longer after your holidays did you return to work. For instance, if your facebook page captured you saying that you had a great time and felt so much better, but was still off work for 2 months, it will look more suspicious.
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