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Are small pots worth doing?

I am going to exceed LTA.

if i pay into my employer scheme via salary sacrifice I get an NI saving plus half the employer NI.

If i reduce my conts to try and get 3 small pots elsewhere, I forego the NI saving but no LTA charge as small pots do not count towards LTA.

i think that any gain is marginal at best and may not even be a gain.

Basic rate taxpayer before and after any reduction to employer scheme.

Worth bothering with 3 small pots or not?

Its obviously only going to be about 3% of LTA so only a small gain, if any.

Thanks

EDIT could wait until i retire to build up any small pots i suppose?

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  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 14,782 Forumite
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    You need to do the detailed sums and decide if it's worth it - only way to find out.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    Marcon wrote: »
    You need to do the detailed sums and decide if it's worth it - only way to find out.

    Not obvious.

    £100 gross into pension actually gets £106.90 into pension. Less 25% LTA charge gives £80.17 then deduct 20% tax gives £64.14 in the poxket. I keep 64.14% of the amount I paid into pension.

    £100 gross into separate pension costs me an extra 12% plus 6.8% loss of NI savings. So cost to me is £118.80. Out of the pension I get 25% tax free so end up with £85.00 so I keep 71.54% of the cost.

    So i gain an extra 7% for every £100 so for 3 small pots totalling £30k, the max saving is about £2k.

    Obviously differences in investment returns would dwarf this.

    Probably easier to sal sac until retirement then build up the small pots afterwards.

    Is there any flaw in this logic?

    Thanks
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    no LTA charge as small pots do not count towards LTA.

    Thank you; I didn't know that. Alas, nor do I know anyone who seems likely to gain by it.
    Free the dunston one next time too.
  • ffacoffipawb
    ffacoffipawb Posts: 3,593 Forumite
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    kidmugsy wrote: »
    Thank you; I didn't know that. Alas, nor do I know anyone who seems likely to gain by it.

    They may not trigger MPAA reduction either.
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