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Think Workplace might be Dodgy and Hygiene Check due?

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  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,839 Forumite
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    Presumably you have your health / hygiene certificates at home, in your own possession, so no-one's going to be able to take them away and they won't be rescinded unless there is some kind of national database of who holds appropriate qualifications to work in the food sector. I'm pretty sure no such database exists, there is no register of suitably qualified people you have to be on.

    Seriously, this place is failing fast. Get another job if you need the income. Get another job if you want to know what's going to happen. You won't get that here.

    If it's closed following the hygiene inspection, no-one can say how long it will be closed for: if the manager deals with it with the same degree of urgency he's shown so far, it could be some time. Also the shopping centre may wake up to the lease situation, demand an increase and backdate it, or just pass the lease to someone else.
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  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    TELLIT01 wrote: »
    I'm sorry but what do you think will happen if it gets closed down. You will have no job is what will happen. I can't work out what other answer you are expecting. If it closes you will need to get another job or claim JSA/UC.
    ^^^ This ^^^^

    Which is exactly why it isn't clear what you actually want. If you all have qualifications in safety and hygiene, you either know it meets the standards or it doesn't, and that's been the case for many months- as you've admitted. So you were happy to carry on working in an unsafe and unhygenic environment for a long time, whilst it was making no money. Which doesn't sound very responsible or professional. So if you haven't reported it to date, one has to wonder why you are asking what to do now, or what answer you are expecting. It isn't as though this all suddenly happened. So have you all just come over with a dose of conscience, professionalism or something else? It's hard to rationalise why you haven't reported unsafe and unhygenic food preparation in all those months up to now if it matters so much to you.
  • Miowzolite
    Miowzolite Posts: 17 Forumite
    edited 7 July 2018 at 9:30AM
    Which is exactly why it isn't clear what you actually want. If you all have qualifications in safety and hygiene, you either know it meets the standards or it doesn't, and that's been the case for many months- as you've admitted. So you were happy to carry on working in an unsafe and unhygenic environment for a long time, whilst it was making no money. Which doesn't sound very responsible or professional. So if you haven't reported it to date, one has to wonder why you are asking what to do now, or what answer you are expecting. It isn't as though this all suddenly happened. So have you all just come over with a dose of conscience, professionalism or something else? It's hard to rationalise why you haven't reported unsafe and unhygenic food preparation in all those months up to now if it matters so much to you.

    Read my other comments - we've been trying to fix it for a long time, but now the health and hygiene people have phoned to say they are coming, so we could be closed down. That is why NOW this is serious. Although if we are not personally affected then I don't care that much, as the owner does not care despite his months and months of being nagged both by us and by the team who run the shopping center. We contacted the leaders of our chain about it as well, all they did was send somebody to look at stuff, say it's bad, and say they'd get in touch with the shop owner - but nothing was done.

    It's not sudden dose of conscience, as my posts say all I really care about is if the health and hygiene check will affect US. If we will get shut down NOW that they are coming. If we are suddenly shut down (which AGAIN I don't care about) I wanted to know if we would be financially supported. Someone has answered that now so... yeah.

    If you have any other questions please read my posts, as I've answered most of what you asked in the ones after the original. Or in the case of "Why suddenly now?!" it was answered in the original.
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    I think you are missing the point. Unsafe working conditions and the selling of unhygenic food is always important. But it doesn't seem to have any importance to you until that phone call came - because if it had then you'd have reported it, and it is very easy to find out how to report it. If potentially harming people wasn't critical to you (or the shopping centre) for the last however many months, then I wouldn't be keen to eat anywhere that any of you worked. It seems that reporting it is only now of interest because you want to be able to say it was closed down. You didn't report it. You didn't get a better job. So it doesn't seem that you really had any concerns at all. You may not be culpable, but you may as well be. You stood around for months and allowed this to continue.
  • Miowzolite
    Miowzolite Posts: 17 Forumite
    edited 7 July 2018 at 2:22PM
    The only people whose safety is at risk are mine and the other girl who works here. Theres no unhygienic food, we only sell crisps and small packaged cakes, we dont even have any plates or cutlery. The only food related issue is that we just dont have toilets and food places are supposed to have them if customers can sit in, and we have 4 stools so they could do this. Not having hot water for the sink isnt harming people, as we can boil it using a kettle, and all our cups are disposable anyway. Not having toilets is apparently fine according to the shopping Center as we are considered a kiosk. The only people who are at risk are us, due to the hot water spraying everywhere. But it is far away from customers and behind a thick barrier. The safety hazards are not affecting any customers at all. The health people would shut it down because OUR safety is at risk, no one elses.
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,839 Forumite
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    there are many shopping centres where the food 'kiosks' do not have their own toilets but people can 'sit in'. Motorway service centres are another fine example: there's one set of toilets, and multiple food outlets.
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  • Miowzolite
    Miowzolite Posts: 17 Forumite
    edited 7 July 2018 at 5:37PM
    So we may pass the hygiene check after all? In that case guess Ill let them go through with it. Thanks.

    Sorry for being so uncertain about this type of thing, beverage service isnt really my area tbh. I spent 8 years in RAF recruitment and wanted something a little more laid back for a while, but this is a little too disorganised for my liking. Got an interview with my local police service next week for a similar office position doing DBS checks, so hopefully that will go well.
  • aife
    aife Posts: 220 Forumite
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    Are you the same person that posted before about your colleague not doing their job and the manager being abroad and not really caring ?
  • aife wrote: »
    Are you the same person that posted before about your colleague not doing their job and the manager being abroad and not really caring ?

    I got gnored when I asked this ........
  • Miowzolite
    Miowzolite Posts: 17 Forumite
    Sorry I work full time so it's not easy to find time to go online. My manager and owner are very lazy but my collegue is alright, I don't recall using these boards before but may have done in the past. I asked a question about confidentiality when conducting assessments under suspicion but I don't know if it was on here or not.
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