MSE News: Massive rail fare overhaul could see season tickets scrapped

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  • redux
    redux Posts: 22,976 Forumite
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    Some of the listed options clash with each other, so they are unlikely to reach a consensus.

    For instance, it suggests a price per mile, but another option has cheaper rates for less service. This could straight away cause clashes between stations served by stopping and fast services on the same line.

    There is a huge variation in per mile rates at the moment, short trip between adjacent stations £1 a mile, peak day return to London 50p a mile, season ticket to London 15p a mile, advance fares as low as 10p or even 6p a mile.

    Good luck to anyone who tries to resolve all that without upsetting some very vociferous groups.
  • AirlieBird
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    Can there be a ticket for regular weekday commuters only? If someone is traveling to work every week from Mon-Fri then there should be an option for this.

    There is. It's called a season ticket.
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  • harshitguptaiitr
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    AirlieBird wrote: »
    There is. It's called a season ticket.
    The season ticket is also valid for travel on weekends.

    A ticket which works only on weekdays will be cheaper (money-saving) than the current season ticket (valid on both weekdays and weekends).
  • yorkie2
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    Reaper wrote: »
    I voted to wipe out all the complexity. Simple price per mile with a price cap for commuters.

    Anything else seems unnecessary.

    Peak fares? No need as those who can travel later would never willingly join the commuter crush. They were never about spreading out travel, just hitting commuters for more cash as they are forced to travel regardless.

    If train companies need incentives to keep branch lines open that can be done behind the scenes taking money from one line to subsidise another. There is no need to add that complexity to ticket prices.
    What would the price per mile be?

    I suspect that such a proposal would not be viable. Some lines would cease to be viable and be forced to close, while others would suffer major capacity problems at busy times.
  • silverwhistle
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    Reaper wrote: »
    Peak fares? No need as those who can travel later would never willingly join the commuter crush. They were never about spreading out travel, just hitting commuters for more cash as they are forced to travel regardless.


    That's not how transport economics works, I'm afraid. If there were no commuter led peaks the capital investment could be a lot less - from rolling stock, staff, permanent way, length of platform costs etc. As a result commuters have to pay more to reflect that capital investment.
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