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Part year NI credits, do they count? Also part year shortfall question

At the moment I am getting NI credits as I am now a carer. My pension statement states I need 3 more years to receive a full state pension but I quick calculation shows me that I am actually 2.5 years short. It is unlikely that I will be a carer for another 3 years so I will top up my NI shortfall when the time comes. To get the last missing 6 months would I have to pay a full year or a partial year?


Also if I cease to be a carer part way through a financial year, which means my NI credits stop, would for example 20 weeks of NI credits count and would be worth 20/52 or again does only full year contributions count?
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  • Dox
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    You need full years.
  • molerat
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    Only full years count so you need 3 years to reach the full amount
  • Sun-Is-Fun
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    The 20/52 weeks do count I believe, so you would only need to buy the additional 32 weeks to get a full year.

    Look here: https://www.royallondon.com/Global/documents/GoodWithYourMoney/TOPPING-UP-YOUR-STATE-PENSION-GUIDE.pdf
  • smjxm09
    smjxm09 Posts: 672 Forumite
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    This is the relevant piece

    Whatever State Pension system you come under, if you
    paid some NICs in a financial year but not enough to
    get a full qualifying year, you can make contributions
    for these extra weeks.
    For example, if you need an extra 10 weeks of
    contributions for the 2010/11 financial year to make
    up a qualifying year, it will cost you £146.50 (£14.65
    x 10) if you’re under the old State Pension system and
    £120.50 (£12.05 x 10) if you’re under the new system.


    So this seems to answer my second question.
  • molerat
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    edited 16 May 2018 at 2:17PM
    Yes, the weeks count as weeks but only a full year counts towards your pension so 2.5 years will not get you 2.5 years worth of pension, only 2. If you then make up that part year to a full year by whatever means it then counts. To get that extra £2.35 worth of pension you need the full year of credits.
  • Wicked_Lady
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    I have just made up 2 years on my State Pension. One of these was a full rate but I paid less for the other one as I already had a few weeks of credits - not many though!

    Worked out that I should reap the benefits after about 3 years.
  • smjxm09
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    So the missing 6 months worth £122 per year or £97.67 after tax would cost me around £761 and take 8 years to recoup taking me to 74 years old. Not quite the bargain it first seems.
  • molerat
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    Considering that £761 would get you £24 after tax with an annuity the state pension option doesn't look too bad ;)
  • Linton
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    smjxm09 wrote: »
    So the missing 6 months worth £122 per year or £97.67 after tax would cost me around £761 and take 8 years to recoup taking me to 74 years old. Not quite the bargain it first seems.


    Wouldnt 6 months worth of NI would cost you 26 X £14.65=£380?
  • molerat
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    Linton wrote: »
    Wouldnt 6 months worth of NI would cost you 26 X £14.65=£380?
    I think they are referring to paying a whole year to receive the missing half a year pension value.
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