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23, back from travelling, and can't afford a house in London
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[QUOTE=westernpromise;74203125manufacturing_second-hand_cars.[/QUOTE]
How would I go about manufacturing a second hand car?“What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare0 -
qwert_yuiop wrote: »You really need to check those figures.
Meh!
I was in a hurry, so I googled and went with that. The precise numbers don't alter my point, though. UK minus London is still a lot bigger than London.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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Meh!
I was in a hurry, so I googled and went with that. The precise numbers don't alter my point, though. UK minus London is still a lot bigger than London.
It certainly is but 16 square km is 16 million square meters, so that!!!8217;s standing room only for those 9 million people.“What means that trump?” Timon of Athens by William Shakespeare0 -
qwert_yuiop wrote: »How would I go about manufacturing a second hand car?
Lada essentially manufactured second-hand cars, as did Leyland in the 70s and 80s. They were cars which from the point of view of quality, reliability, technology, and specification were comparable to used Fords, or to well-used VWs. Hence their sales prices even when "new" typically reflected this.0 -
qwert_yuiop wrote: »It certainly is but 16 square km is 16 million square meters, so that!!!8217;s standing room only for those 9 million people.
:rotfl:
I should have noticed that! It was a typo for 1600 sq km.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
westernpromise wrote: »Lada essentially manufactured second-hand cars, as did Leyland in the 70s and 80s. They were cars which from the point of view of quality, reliability, technology, and specification were comparable to used Fords, or to well-used VWs. Hence their sales prices even when "new" typically reflected this.
Qwerty UIOPs point was a comment on doing something in the future, not looking back thirty/forty years ago.
What has an Austin Allegro got to do with any manufactured product going forward?
Nice try though, 6.5 / 10
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The common factor is the state deciding we need a certain industry in a certain place and penalizing successful industries elsewhere with taxes to fund subsidies. The result is typically that you end up manufacturing second hand cars, weapons that don't work, and so on, but you also damage successful industry with the taxes levied to fund the Austins, the British Coals, the ICLs etc.
The actual junk good being manufactured is neither here nor there. In the 70s it was Allegros, in the 20s it will be something else.
We may as well tax successful companies and spend the take manufacturing Spitfires. May as well be honest about it.0 -
westernpromise wrote: »The common factor is the state deciding we need a certain industry in a certain place and penalizing successful industries elsewhere with taxes to fund subsidies. The result is typically that you end up manufacturing second hand cars, weapons that don't work, and so on, but you also damage successful industry with the taxes levied to fund the Austins, the British Coals, the ICLs etc.
The actual junk good being manufactured is neither here nor there. In the 70s it was Allegros, in the 20s it will be something else.
We may as well tax successful companies and spend the take manufacturing Spitfires. May as well be honest about it.
Without state investment in R&D, the iphone would be a lump of plastic, metal and glass. The internet originated out of a DARPA project.
Ultimately, I think the state will end up subsidising at some level. It already does. It's just how you do it.
Oh, and I reckon they would sell quite a few Spitfires to collectors around the world 0 -
Without state investment in R&D, the iphone would be a lump of plastic, metal and glass. The internet originated out of a DARPA project.
Ultimately, I think the state will end up subsidising at some level. It already does. It's just how you do it.
Oh, and I reckon they would sell quite a few Spitfires to collectors around the world
The internet didn't originate from a state decision to develop something that would be commercially useful. It was a defence project to serve the military, which fortuitously turned out to have other uses. A much better example of a state technology project is Concorde, which resulted in the construction of, er, 20 planes at a cost of well over a billion in 1960s money.
If the state is going to tax people and spend the money on stuff it imagines is important, it is so likely to be wrong that what it manufacturers is then of distant secondary importance. Hence my suggestion that we may as well tax successful industries and spend it on Spitfires. Spitfies are at least pretty and a useful film prop, unlike the iconic ICL OPD ("one per desk") IBM PC competitor that we all went out and bought.
The clue is to look at what industries actually manage to pay some tax. Rather than punishing them with taxes to fund stupid flights of statist fancy, why not do something to encourage them?0 -
The proper rich dont get proper rich saying I have enough why compare myself to others.
So bascally what you're saying is it's all about excess greed both in financial and emotional terms............Gettin' There, Wherever There is......
I have a dodgy "i" key, so ignore spelling errors due to "i" issues, ...I blame Apple
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