new manager making work unbearable.

ThemeOne

I think what the OP needs to try and discover is the degree these changes are coming from senior management. This new woman may well have been brought in with a specific brief from above, and if that's the case you'll need to tread carefully if you decide to fight her on anything.

I would definitely not go to HR until you discover how much of this is coming from above, and even if you find it's not coming from above, you always need to be careful with HR as they often regard complainants as the problem.

Alternatively this woman may have no particular mandate from above, and may believe this is how to be a good manager. She will probably be wanting to report back to management above how she's improving things, though if sickness has increased, as you state, that might be a bit difficult.

Les79

ThemeOne wrote: »

report back to management above how she's improving things, though if sickness has increased, as you state, that might be a bit difficult.

Aye, but to be honest increased sickness levels in the short term is not usually an indicator of how effective the manager is. It is usually down to:

- Employee resistance to change
- Employees believing that they are sabotaging the manager by going off sick
- The changes are threatening the pikers who have been coasting in the job, and they don't like the concept of having to do some work.

It is just like Darwinism in a way, survival of the fittest and all that. Can just imagine people like OP in the time of the dinosaurs, they'd have a good strategy to be able to escape from a Tyrannasaurus Rex but on their first instance of being face to face with a Velociraptor they would have absolutely no strategy and end up as dinosaur dinner.

Don't become a dinosaur's dinner.

nicechap

For those interested in a management perspective of this situation, jojo has made a couple of excellent posts on OPs parallel thread here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5832527/new-manager-making-work-unbearable
Not an awful lot of tea &!sympathy there either.

mac.d

Thanks for that link nicechap, you are right that jojo has made some very good posts in that thread, I also like Iwanttobefree's post though because I agree with them too, this person sounds to me like a bad manager by trying to dictate what peope are chatting about in their break room.

demiruss

Mika134 wrote: »

Same as everyone else has said - in most jobs you will end up doing this. I've worked 12 hour shifts and had to write a report afterwards which could take another hour, and not been paid for that hour. I've worked bar shifts and waitressing shifts which involved an hour or two unpaid cleaning afterwards. It really is just a common thing in the working world and is something you should just expect and accept if you want a job these days - just like how you don't expect to be paid for travelling time.

74jax wrote: »

I'm a PA and if my director wanted me to send an email after my day then I'd have to do it, I regularly start work early, finish late, etc. it's just part of the course with my office job.


I very rarely log off on time anyway as nothing finishes exactly to the minute I'm due to leave. I don't stop mid way through and upsticks and leave. And I also don't get to 5 mins before I'm to leave and think 'well I won't do that as it'll take longer than 5 mins'

I wouldn't do this unless chasing a promotion/the employer was a good one. It's shouldn't be par for the course in any job and shouldn't be accepted. I've been expected to stay (unpaid) after I've finished without an ounce of gratitude, whilst the boss claimed for every single minute they "worked". People in supportive roles should know the value of their time and shouldn't be expected to work for free, it all adds up. Know your worth.

As for an hour+ of unpaid cleaning, the employer is well and truly mugging you off there.

aife

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Banning profanity and discussions of inappropriate behaviour from your nights out in a shared work space (even if it is the break room) sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Why should other employees have to put up with swearing and tales of drunken partying? They might just want a quiet break.

I don't like listening to people talking about Jesus /their kids / the royal family etc. , but I wouldn't go running to complain to a manager

74jax

demiruss wrote: »

I wouldn't do this unless chasing a promotion/the employer was a good one.


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I think you've hit the nail on the head. A very very good company, I love my job, I'm very well respected and treated and feel I genuinely contribute to the company and it's performance and I'm well rewarded and acknowledged for that.


Have I done the same in jobs that haven't been as rewarding...... no.