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  • k3lvc
    k3lvc Posts: 4,174 Forumite
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    I'm not so sure. What I read (possibly) is that the OP had a previous grievance against the mgr for confidentiality which wasn't upheld because it was one person's word against another's. The manager (sex irrelevant - it may be that the OP is just disguising details) has now been stupid enough to breach confid again (possibly...) and this time the OP has proof. Is that how it is, OP?

    I read it that way too but OP also appears to have some other significant issues that aren't going to help the cause.

    Having been in a situation where I believed my boss was directly responsible for my 'sickness' I finally took time-out with GP's support and company medical insurance paid for counselling. It made me realise my own shortcomings/issues and how to manage my feelings before finally returning to the same job/Manager and being able to play the game in a better way.

    My suspiscion is that OP has significantly less service and is in no position to be making significant demands - any breaches proved aren't likely to deliver what they're looking for
  • pmduk
    pmduk Posts: 10,682 Forumite
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    Sadly, the OP seems obsessive, I wonder if we're just feeding that unhealthy obsession.
  • another_casualty
    another_casualty Posts: 6,506 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2018 at 12:09PM
    Sorry, couldn't read and run:o
    I had a similar problem with a boss in my previous job.
    I won't go into too much detail ,but because of the recession in 2008 and after a few temp contracts I had to take the job offered to me permanently . There was nothing out there and I had mortgage and debts to pay etc. It was a job riddled with internal politics ,tension and problems.

    What happened to me was: I had a few appointments with a dermatolgist fo a flare up of psoriasis . Fair enough. I made sure I let my boss know at every opportunity. There was one time I was asked by the hospital to change from an afternoon to a morning. I asked my boss. She was fine with it . However, because my 2 faced colleague went behind my back and complained to her, the following happened .. she come into my office and shouted at me criticising my appointments in front of my other colleague . I was shocked.
    Upon walking around the offices doing my job( postal clerk) I noticed a yellow post it note on top of a file on the desk of a nice lady who is a personnel assistant. It said" I warned another casualty about his appointments etc.."
    So, next morning I went to see my boss and shouted at her. She had no right on earth to do that . I then went to personnel and asked if that "warning" on a post it note would be on my file . "No it won't ",i was told . I noticed the following morning the two of them were in a meeting room . Maybe personnel advised my boss she was wrong.
    These were n h s appointments btw . Not just any dermatologist .
    After all that, my advise is to leave and move on .
  • TBagpuss
    TBagpuss Posts: 11,236 Forumite
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    I want to leave, ready to leave but my dad said to me if you "run once, you keep on running,"

    This stood out for me. I think your dad is wrong, in this instance. I think better advise is probably "pick your battles" - decide what you personally (not your dad, not random people on the internet) think is worth fighting for, and how much of your life you are willing to spend in a job which makes yup unhappy, in order to prove a point.

    Id this your 'hill to die on'? Being prepared to stand up for yourself and for your principles is a good thing, but so is knowing when to cut your losses.

    If you want to leave, then put your energies into finding a new job so you can leave. and if you want, let your current employer know, in an exit interview, why you left.

    in the mean time, if you want to raise a grievance about how your boss treats you, do that, and keep job hunting in the mean time.

    failing to ensure that private information was handled sensitively is something which you can ca validly complain about, but it is not, in itself, something which is going to get your boss sacked.

    In your position, it may be worth you speaking to HR, explaining that the behaviour you previously complained of stopped for a while but then re-started, and that you would now like move to a different team so you and your boss are no longer working together, and ask whether that is still possible.

    If they agree, then even if it mean a longer commute in the short term, it should mean that you are better in terms of your mental health, and if you do then go ahead and look for a new job, you are likely to do better in interviews if you are not sick.
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • simon2018
    simon2018 Posts: 68 Forumite
    I'm not so sure. What I read (possibly) is that the OP had a previous grievance against the mgr for confidentiality which wasn't upheld because it was one person's word against another's. The manager (sex irrelevant - it may be that the OP is just disguising details) has now been stupid enough to breach confid again (possibly...) and this time the OP has proof. Is that how it is, OP?


    Thanks all.

    Yes it is like that but this time I have a lot of notes against her that are dated and timed along with who was present.

    I have worked all of my life, been there for less that two years and the manager has been with the company I think for about 10/12 years.

    I have never been unemployed and love this job as it close to home, and I meet nice people trough it and pay is good.

    I did have a word with my manager, one to one several months ago and she said it was all in
    my mind and laughed it off. She is freinds with the other mangers.

    Been thinking today and had help from dad to write up a concise complaint with times and dates. Spoke to HR, new lady, sounded helpful and they have offered to come and see me at home as the HQ is far away.

    I don't think they will sack her, but a step in the right direction

    I spoke with ACAS and have more knwoldge re DPA and this was another clear breach of my
    personal and sensitive information shared with a workmate that had no right to have it shared with. There is an electroic trail and thankfully I have a copy

    I'm not leaving as yet and plan to return to work after a meeting with HR, a few days after that..
    A mediation meeting was suggested and I told HR they way she laughed when I tried last time.

    I think some of the comments here on this thread are by people that have never worked and live off the dole, hence not having to face workplace bullies. If she was a bloke, I would have smashed her face by now. In all my years I've never hit anyone first, and walked away from a fight, but I am a very capable bloke as Judo is my sport. Having said that, I don't think I'd it her if she was a man as I would lose out and this is what she wants.
  • nicechap
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    simon2018 wrote: »
    ......

    I think some of the comments here on this thread are by people that have never worked and live off the dole, hence not having to face workplace bullies. If she was a bloke, I would have smashed her face by now. In all my years I've never hit anyone first, and walked away from a fight, but I am a very capable bloke as Judo is my sport. Having said that, I don't think I'd it her if she was a man as I would lose out and this is what she wants.



    Dear o dear, more monsters & conspiracies from your own imagination. Unvented aggression too.


    You need to sort out your view of the world if you are ever to be a valuable employee.
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  • BrassicWoman
    BrassicWoman Posts: 3,218 Forumite
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    1. Stop listening to your dad, he's from the 1970s
    2. Get yourself some interpersonal skills training

    26 years work experience. Worked for bullies. You can't change them, you can only change you and hope they respond better!
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  • BorisThomson
    BorisThomson Posts: 1,721 Forumite
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    I have worked all of my life, been there for less that two years and the manager has been with the company I think for about 10/12 years.

    Expect to be sacked in the near future.
    I think some of the comments here on this thread are by people that have never worked and live off the dole, hence not having to face workplace bullies. If she was a bloke, I would have smashed her face by now. In all my years I've never hit anyone first, and walked away from a fight, but I am a very capable bloke as Judo is my sport. Having said that, I don't think I'd it her if she was a man as I would lose out and this is what she wants.

    This strongly suggests the problem is with you.
  • k3lvc
    k3lvc Posts: 4,174 Forumite
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    Expect to be sacked in the near future.

    I'd put money on it
    This strongly suggests the problem is with you.

    There's no 'strong suggestion' about it - OP you're a liability and your Dad's suggestions aren't helping. Get out and get some help.
  • steampowered
    steampowered Posts: 6,176 Forumite
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    You are not in the playground any more.

    In the real world some people are unpleasant or nasty or incompetent. Dealing with difficult people sometimes is just a fact of life I'm afraid.

    You simply have to deal with it and get on with the job. Or if you can't or don't want to deal with it, resign and find another job.

    Stewing over the situation is the worst possible approach.

    The best way to get this manager sacked is just to leave. If he/she can't retain their staff, he/she won't last very long.
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