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How to avoid stamp duties during buying a two house as a first buyer?

Hello,
I'm in the process of buy two houses in same time. The first house is as a first buyer, the second house is a buy to let. Would be possible to avoid stamp duties in this situation? Price of both houses is much lower than 300k. I know it's tricky but possible.

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  • ACG
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    If you buy the Buy to let first you pay normal rate stamp duty and then normal rate stamp duty on the residential.

    If you buy the residential first, you pay no stamp duty but you pay the higher rate on the BTL.

    Or at least that is my understanding, but I could be wrong.
    Have you asked the solicitor you plan on using for the conveyancing?
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  • enthusiasticsaver
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    I don't see how you can avoid paying the double stamp duty on the BTL (the second property). To claim the free stamp duty below £300k on the FTB house you have to declare you have never owned a property before.
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  • amnblog
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    When you complete on the second property you will pay the extra 3%.

    You need to purchase these properties in the best order to minimise your SDLT. Speak to your solicitor.
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  • Tom99
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    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]I think the cheapest way is to buy the residential as a FTB free of stamp duty 1st then pay the extra 3% on the BTL. I can't see how you can do it any cheaper.[/FONT]
  • Pixie5740
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    ACG wrote: »
    If you buy the Buy to let first you pay normal rate stamp duty and then normal rate stamp duty on the residential.

    If you buy the residential first, you pay no stamp duty but you pay the higher rate on the BTL.

    Or at least that is my understanding, but I could be wrong.
    Have you asked the solicitor you plan on using for the conveyancing?

    You are half right. The higher rate of SDLT applies when someone purchases an additional residential property. The fact the OP would live in the property as a main residence is irrelevant it's the fact that it's an additional residential property that's important. A simple way to look at it is at the start of the transaction the OP would own 1 residential property and at the end (s)he would own 2 residential properties. 2 is greater than 1 so the higher rate applies.
  • Pixie5740
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    Poniato wrote: »
    Hello,
    I'm in the process of buy two houses in same time. The first house is as a first buyer, the second house is a buy to let. Would be possible to avoid stamp duties in this situation? Price of both houses is much lower than 300k. I know it's tricky but possible.


    No OP it is not possible to avoid paying SDLT on both purchases. Not tricky or difficult but impossible if you plan on having a beneficial interest in both properties and those beneficial interests are worth more than £40k.

    There is a less expensive way of doing it and a more expensive way. Assuming both properties are worth roughly the same the least expensive way is to purchase the main residence as a FTB using the SDLT relief for FTB and then purchase the BTL and pay the higher rate of SDLT.
  • kingstreet
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    FTB exemption only applies to the property you will reside in. I don't see how you can have two of those, so I concur with the others.

    Purchase of main residence, exempt.

    Purchase of second property, 3% surcharge on top of standard SDLT.
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