Breach of DPA, information found

Nothanks

Never going to dissuade someone from joining up, but a union will unlikely provide support as it's a pre-existing problem. Individual reps have some leeway if they're inclined but generally it's like rushing out to buy hone insurance when your house is already on fire.

elsien

simon2018 wrote: »

Thank you all.

It does not bother me if you believe me or not as I know the truth and I would have never looked if they had not fallen out and MY NAME had not caught my eyes.

I was scared and in hindsight as one of you kind posters have said, I should have taken it to HR/etc and told them.

I am a very, very honest man and would never touch anyone's bag, but this multiple zipped bag, with about 4 compartments, and the one these papers and other fell out of zips to the bottom and was open and I did not note this so as I lifted a batch of papers fell out.

I appreciate what you posters have posted and can easily see the scenarior of this bully/lying, two faced cow accusing me of going into this bag even though it was left in the genral office on someones desk, a desk I had to use and this can be confirmed by others.


We were discussing my situation at work, I have never been out of work as my family despise the workshy. What my mum, dad and sister said to me is as I'm up for it, put in a griviance against this bully. I have been keeping records of her bullying ways and snide comments for the past three months.

I have also documented two other colleagues saying that the way I'm treated is different to the ways others are treated but wont back it up, but I have documented this/timed/etc and will put forward. I also have documented evidence of my bullies false, hypocritical accusations of not following procedure when everyone else does it as well as this bully/manager. I also have a record of a visitor into our office just before Chistams when the manager spoke to me in a rude way and snatched the phone out of my hand and the man/visitor asked me if this manager was always rude like this - I have his email.

In June 2017, I moved from my previous department becuse of this pile of dog mess and it is doucmented. Sadly, this pile of mess was promoted and followed me to the department/section I work in, moved in Nov 2017 and the usally behaviour started about a week after she came over.

my plan:

written consice notes re my concerns, nasty events, will phone ACAS tomorrow as I finish at 2pm on Mondays, join a union and fight this all the way.

For the poster that talked about me going on benefits and claiming "stress," I AM STRESSED, sick and fed up with this dog mess but I love my job due to the flexible hours and good at what I do, so I will try and get this bully her karma and if it does not work, for the first time in my life I will have to leave a job because of this nasty bully.
i will never go on the dole and be without a job even for a day because of a buly. She is nasty, she has it in for me, not sure why but I think she made a pass it me and I am not a two timing man.

All help appreciated and points noted.

More help required. Thanks

None of us here know if you are being bullied or not, just your perception which may or may not be correct.

But however stressed and unhappy you are, referring to your manager as a pile of dog mess, a hypocrite, the whole "rejected woman" spiel (which is such a stereotype I really don't go for it) isn't helping.
All it does is build everything up in your head, making you go over and over it, and make you feel worse. It also has the danger that your reactions to your manager then get you into a bit of a vicious circle.
You can't control how other people behave but you can control how you react to it.
Make a grievance with the evidence that you have. But don't use the rummaging through someone's bag as evidence because it will seriously backfire it in you.

gettingtheresometime

elsien wrote: »

None of us here know if you are being bullied or not, just your perception which may or may not be correct.

But however stressed and unhappy you are, referring to your manager as a pile of dog mess, a hypocrite, the whole "rejected woman" spiel (which is such a stereotype I really don't go for it) isn't helping.
All it does is build everything up in your head, making you go over and over it, and make you feel worse. It also has the danger that your reactions to your manager then get you into a bit of a vicious circle.
You can't control how other people behave but you can control how you react to it.
Make a grievance with the evidence that you have. But don't use the rummaging through someone's bag as evidence because it will seriously backfire it in you.

Couldn't agree more Elsien.


The OP would be better off learning how not to rise to the manager's actions, that would not frustrate the manager (if they are trying to provoke a reaction) but lessen the stress that the OP is under.

Ozzuk

I'd bet a lot of people would read something with their name on it, the temptation would be strong. But its wrong, first for reading anything anyway, then for continuing reading once you saw it was confidential. Mistakes happen, people leave things out - doesn't make what you did right, no matter how you dress it up.

Sorry if that is blunt, but you need to get this 'evidence' out of your head and move on. You could submit a SAR (subject access request) and see what surfaces but I wouldn't push too much if you are leaving.

AstroTurtle

To The Judge


"Simon2018 went to another colleagues desk, whilst a that desk he went through files not regarding him to which he had no legitimate interest in viewing, Whilst there that colleague had sensitive files on their desk contained within a zip locked bag, Simon2018 must of opened the zip and rummaged through the files to locate one marked with his name relating to our notes (Which we offered him a copy of after our meeting) within this bag. He then came to us with accusations of a breach of DPA, It was our understanding the colleague whom had the notes had securely locked them away that night following a type up and this is our error, however we also want to draw attention to Simon2018 maliciously going through staff files for his own personal gain without permission or sufficient access"






Story's can be flipped different ways, Not saying yours isn't true. But prepare for a heavy counter defence and decide Is it really worth it?

Samsung_Note2

TELLIT01 wrote: »

You can make a joke of it if you wish, but the worst bullies I have seen in a work environment are women. Once they have a grudge against somebody they never let it go and will make life a total misery. Not all women by any means, but the bad 'uns are far worse than any male manager I've come across.

Tongue in cheek maybe but certainly not joking.:(

simon2018

Thank you all
Discussed with mum and dad, they agree re confidential info found, the bully could easily turn the tables.

I rang acas and will continue to document evidence. I've also decided I', not going to leave

I have also decided, a first for me, I'm going to lie like she/manager does and I but that will be a shell shock for her

Thnak you all

Nothanks

What a fantastic solution.

It'll save the problem about whether you leave or not by getting you sacked.

It also makes any genuine grievance utterly moot.

It also displays a complete lack of integrity, but that's by the by.

Look, I'm putting aside the fact I think it's a completely unpalatable course of action and I hope you come to your senses - but i'll tell you this:

In my years of experience in Employee relations, the best advice has never ever ever once been "Best bet is to lie to your employer"

simon2018

thanks, re-thought and not going to lie as I dont lie and will easily forget what I said if it is untrue.
thanks all.

ReadingTim

Short of leaving the papers on a photocopier or pinned to a noticeboard, the timing of any complaint you make vs a recent unfounded allegation of bullying makes it all too easy to dismiss said complaint as, at best, petty and spiteful; and at worst, vindictive and malicious. You've admitted as much yourself. Therefore, the only person you're likely to damage here is yourself.

Suggest your time and energies are better spent finding a new job, rather than trying to exact 'revenge' on a perceived bully.