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House Price Crash Discussion Thread

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  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    He was there from <gropes around in memory> 1998 to 2003, I think - he's now almost 23.
    OMG yet another thread where I am the "Old " person (44) :rolleyes:

    I need to find a thread where all the posters are 60+ so I can be the young poster.
    My son is 20 :eek:
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    beingjdc wrote: »
    What a lot of well to do people we have here! I did have one friend at Westminster, er, left in '97 I think. Personally I went to a Northern Grammar School you'll never have heard of (not even Leeds or Manchester, tho' we once beat Leeds at chess...)

    OH oh not me......OH went to a totally s**t comp in SE London (1975-80) and left with zero Qualifictions aged 16 (but he's no thicko...he's a bright bloke....or I wouldn't have married him;) ...dishy too.....).
    One of the reasons we never sent our kids there....tho' Govt claims it's improving (oooh since 1981???) and it still hasn't quite got there.

    I went to a grammmarrrr....abolished by Mrs T in 1980. Left @ 16. Misunderstood, creative type.:cool:


    Our 2 kids' education has cost us thousands of £££££ (that we never really had spare either)......will it pay off?
  • beingjdc
    beingjdc Posts: 1,680 Forumite
    fc123 wrote: »
    Our 2 kids' education has cost us thousands of £££££ (that we never really had spare either)......will it pay off?

    I have to say, although I think the house price boom is over, that if my parents had sent me to a state school, and used the fees as BTL deposits, I'd be retired by now...
    Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    beingjdc wrote: »
    I have to say, although I think the house price boom is over, that if my parents had sent me to a state school, and used the fees as BTL deposits, I'd be retired by now...
    You know what...you are probably right. Son uses very long words that we don't understand all the time but will be homeless when he leaves uni.
  • fc123 wrote: »
    OMG yet another thread where I am the "Old " person (44) :rolleyes:

    I need to find a thread where all the posters are 60+ so I can be the young poster.
    My son is 20 :eek:

    Don't panic, my son is 30 and I've got a daughter coming up for 28.
    Poor little mites they had to make do with free State education from rising five to mid 20's.
    [Wot chew gor in yous sandwich? Brie! Oh oive gt cheese in moin]
    We didn't even manage to move to a good catchment area, probably could not have faced up to the downsizing involved:rolleyes:.

    Should I confess that they financed Uni on the back of the BTL boom?

    Life is a lottery, though when looking at school results, I would think that the value added figure is the most important.

    So which local school would you pick:
    http://www.schoolsnet.com/uk-schools/school-details-reviews/thurrock/horndon-on-hill-cofe-primary-school/16180339/0/210045.html
    http://www.schoolsnet.com/uk-schools/school-details-reviews/essex/vange-primary-school-nursery/16180339/0/210031.html
    http://www.schoolsnet.com/uk-schools/school-details-reviews/essex/crays-hill-primary-school/16180339/0/217662.html

    John.
  • Nenen
    Nenen Posts: 2,379 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Generali wrote: »
    Ha ha.

    Wee bit harsh TBH. He was a very nice bloke. Everyone's mate, that sort of person. He had a phenominal memory for jokes. He used to organise events that made thousands for East End charities.

    An original and quite an amazing person now I actually think about it. Clearing Bank I used to work for was full of interesting people doing very dull jobs. Most of The City is full of people that are only interested in money, sadly.

    Did you mean you were being harsh in your original comment about the guy Generali or me in my reply based on your comment? :confused:

    From the comments you've just made I'd say, as he is a genuinely lovely chap and has the ability to do all the above, the school did an excellent job and helped him reach his potential. The difficulty I have with some parents who send their child to private school is that a few think that, because they are paying, the school can somehow 'make a silk purse out of a sows ear' and turn a child of limited academic ability into a genius! Obviously the aim of any school is to enable every child to achieve his/her potential and encourage him/her to become an all round 'good egg', constructive member of society, able to live a full and happy life. As far as I'm concerned, if I achieve that, then I'm happy irrespective of whether the child goes on to win a Nobel prize!
    “A journey is best measured in friends, not in miles.”
    (Tim Cahill)
  • Nenen wrote: »
    The difficulty I have with some parents who send their child to private school is that a few think that, because they are paying, the school can somehow 'make a silk purse out of a sows ear' and turn a child of limited academic ability into a genius!

    I thought the benefits of private school education are the small classes and the spoon feeding? Bright children will do well regardless of whether they have state or private education.

    The private school will help their pupils to get into a good university, but they are on their own after that, as many found out (and struggled) at the university my son went to. I agree with the silk purse out of a sows ear comment, as many of these parents (who had spent thousands on schooling their offspring) were then genuinely surprised at their children's low grades now that they were at university. My son was shocked at how much help they wanted and how some didn't even know how to work out the average:eek: Something my children learnt at primary school.

    One of the private educated students that my son shared a house with and was on an the physics with astrophysics course (the same degree as my daughter). This boy had got A grades in his A levels with his private school but failed his first year at university. He really struggled with the course and ended up with just an Open degree. His mother told me that perhaps he was was on the wrong course as physics had too much maths in it and that he should have done a computing course:eek: She didn't seem to realise that computing degree students do maths too.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • JWF
    JWF Posts: 363 Forumite
    beingjdc wrote: »
    Not quite! It wasn't Hulme either.

    Batley.

    Well whatdoyouknow! I have a few mates from Batley Grammar, though like others here I went to a less than perfect comp and it didnt do me any harm!

    They left the 6th form in 1992, don't know if thats the same year as you!

    Anyway, this thread has gone remarkably off topic lol
    All I seem to hear is blah blah blah!
  • beingjdc
    beingjdc Posts: 1,680 Forumite
    JWF wrote: »
    Well whatdoyouknow! I have a few mates from Batley Grammar, though like others here I went to a less than perfect comp and it didnt do me any harm!

    They left the 6th form in 1992, don't know if thats the same year as you!

    Crikey no, I'm one of the thread youngsters, though at 30 I don't feel it (and especially not today, I'm unwell). I was there 89-96, so I guess I overlapped.
    I thought the benefits of private school education are the small classes and the spoon feeding? Bright children will do well regardless of whether they have state or private education.

    We didn't get spoon fed, and up to GCSE our classes, at least for popular and mainstream subjects, had about 30 people in them. The advantages of a private school for me compared to the local schools were;

    * School believed in discipline. Several local state schools only had half as much time to teach, as they had to spend half the time doing crowd control. If you beat someone up, you would be suspended. If you misbehaved, you would leave the lesson. If you got a detention, it would happen.
    * Some selection. Not much, in reality nobody ever failed the entrance exam, and we had our share of the rich-but-thick, but the teachers were not wedded to moving at the pace of the slowest. We were in sets or streams from the second year.
    * (Controversial I know, but) Only about 10% of our pupils did not have English as a first language, compared to more like 50% in a number of other local schools - 93% in the one where my mother taught. Even that 10% were encouraged by their families to learn English to a decent level.

    I'm not sure bright children do well in every school. They'll do well in a good state school with a good catchment area. They'll do well in another school if their parents keep fighting, but I know several schools where they will be unable to learn half the time because of disruption, and displays of intelligence will often be discouraged through break-time beatings.
    Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!
  • If we don't get back on topic I forsee another wrist slapping and a 'no more comprehensive v private education threads' request......
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