Promotion Without Pay, Slave labour?

flexbox1

I work for a very prestigious automotive manufacturer that operates a "graded" pay scale.., some years ago I applied and was promoted to a middle management position at the time I was told that I would be "developed" in to the pay grade for that role... cut to a few years later and I still have not attained the pay for my role, speaking to other people in the workplace that are in a similar position it seems our company is more than happy to keep people in roles for a many years 5+ in some cases without ever paying them the "going rate" for the role... when questioning this we normally get fed a lot of management jargon and excuses as to why we are not being elevated to the correct pay, but I am convinced that the company is just exploiting us and getting cheap labour, most people eventually "move on" after feeling managed out.. and the cycle starts again, is this right? where do I stand legally on this issue?

BorisThomson

Legally you were offered a role at a certain salary and you accepted it. If you think you are worthy of a higher salary then demonstrate to the employer why this is the case. If they disagree and you are unhappy, then you are free to find work elsewhere.

This is not slave labour or exploitation. You might want to think a little more about those terms before using them.

shortcrust

As long as they're paying the national minimum wage there's nothing you can do. Apart from the obvious, which is to take your under appreciated talents elsewhere. All my big jumps in pay have come from getting a better job with a better employer

BorisThomson wrote: »

This is not slave labour or exploitation. You might want to think a little more about those terms before using them.

Yep.

Smodlet

An African American would shred you for the use of such terms. I don't suppose you have the slightest idea how offensive they are.

Comms69

Smodlet wrote: »

An African American would shred you for the use of such terms. I don't suppose you have the slightest idea how offensive they are.

Or most anyone else? Slavery existed long before the exploitation of Africa and the settlement on North America, just FYI.

k3lvc

flexbox1 wrote: »

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And in one post you've demonstrated why you're maybe not being developed/paid the going rate for a middle management position in a prestigious automotive manufacturer :rotfl:


ETA: on a more constructive point the world's changed over the past years and development promises/salary increases are to many a thing of the past - job retention and weekly/monthly pay are more important

agrinnall

I would recommend that you change the title of your thread if you want to get any answers that address your issue rather than your offensive behaviour.

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Grammar: start sentences with a capital letter

Happy now?

ThemeOne

Smodlet wrote: »

An African American would shred you for the use of such terms. I don't suppose you have the slightest idea how offensive they are.

And I don't suppose you have any idea how silly your irrelevant post sounds.

If an offended African-American cares to come on here and "shred" the OP then they're free to do so, but I'm not holding my breath.

Meanwhile back with the matter in hand - in my experience employers do this a lot, under all sorts of guises e.g. acting up in a more senior role, or something like the scenario you've described.

If it's getting to you, and it must be to post here, then probably time to move on.

ThemeOne

flexbox1 wrote: »

jesus chris.... (now I!!!8217;m a blasphemer too)... i didn!!!8217;t realise this was a forum for soapbox warriors, i was simply asking for advice... now someone
please pick me up on my spelling or grammar....
applogies to the African American community


yawn.
bye

Another satisfied customer. Nil points yet again for the Employment Forum.

Good job MSE Forums isn't subject to helpfulness reviews, or has to make any money.

nicechap

I think this is just the latest AE of our resident "wanting to know the legal position" mass debater.

Smodlet

Comms69 wrote: »

Or most anyone else? Slavery existed long before the exploitation of Africa and the settlement on North America, just FYI.

Certainly, that was but one example and possibly the first that would occur to many. I have just received an email from an African American who has written a play about such so it was in the forefront of my mind.

ThemeOne wrote: »

Another satisfied customer. Nil points yet again for the Employment Forum.

Good job MSE Forums isn't subject to helpfulness reviews, or has to make any money.

As you say, the time to complain about advice is when it has cost the recipient money.