CRB advice if possible

marlot

LHC1962 wrote: »

... This person knows there is no excuse for what they did and served their time for their sudden and out of character lack of self control...

Vulnerable people can (without meaning to) wind up the people who care for them.

It seems unfair to both 'you' and the vulnerable person to put the two of you together.

Troll_Stoppers

Hi

I've been out of work for many years as I can't find the job I'm looking for or the hours to suit me. Or it is too far away as I don't drive. Another hurdle I had to face until a few years ago was my CRB now DBS check. No excuse for it but when I was in my very early 20's another girl stole my BF and I was so angry that I put brick through her car window when it was parked in the pub carpark, silly me did not know there was CCTV in that area, go caught, charged, local court and fine.

Good news re DBS, if you have only committed one crime and fined only or jailed less than ?? many years and this was so long ago, you do not have to declare. BUT please cHECK DBS site for info Now I do not have to declare my fit of rage which I regret.

Having said that I know of a friend that works as a traffic warden, she stole from shops as a teeenager now about 50 years old, married couple of times and as honest as the next person - she never declares her past which is wrong, but she worries sick every year as she has to complete a new DBS

Best not to lie as a lie is a lie.

Like I said if it's the one mistake and not one of those massive mistakes, check the DBS site out and update, thanks

here is the link

[sorry wont allow me to post - google DBS and go to a government site

Comms69

Troll_Stoppers wrote: »

Hi

I've been out of work for many years as I can't find the job I'm looking for or the hours to suit me. Or it is too far away as I don't drive. Another hurdle I had to face until a few years ago was my CRB now DBS check. No excuse for it but when I was in my very early 20's another girl stole my BF and I was so angry that I put brick through her car window when it was parked in the pub carpark, silly me did not know there was CCTV in that area, go caught, charged, local court and fine.

Good news re DBS, if you have only committed one crime and fined only or jailed less than ?? many years and this was so long ago, you do not have to declare. - that's not true. BUT please cHECK DBS site for info Now I do not have to declare my fit of rage which I regret. - If you are fined, the conviction is spent after 12 months. For prison, if more than 4 years, it is never spent.

Having said that I know of a friend that works as a traffic warden, she stole from shops as a teeenager now about 50 years old, married couple of times and as honest as the next person - she never declares her past which is wrong, but she worries sick every year as she has to complete a new DBS - Well unless she's asked about spent convictions she wont need to.

Best not to lie as a lie is a lie.

Like I said if it's the one mistake and not one of those massive mistakes, check the DBS site out and update, thanks

here is the link

[sorry wont allow me to post - google DBS and go to a government site

I'm unclear what the point of this was. But just FYI:


Some DBS checks always show ALL past convictions, some only show unspent convictions.

Troll_Stoppers

Point is that new rules meant that someone with one conviction does not have to mention it is my usnerstanding.

Comms69

Troll_Stoppers wrote: »

Point is that new rules meant that someone with one conviction does not have to mention it is my usnerstanding.

That's not true. It never has been true. and it never will be true.


One conviction for murder would be quite important.....

Troll_Stoppers

Well, read my earlier post mate and that is what I said, ie check the prison sentence (i think if you have served less than 2/3 years). I can't keep on repeating everything.

Comms69

Troll_Stoppers wrote: »

Well, read my earlier post mate and that is what I said. I can't keep on repeating everything.

It was factually incorrect and still is.

marlot

Troll_Stoppers wrote: »

Point is that new rules meant that someone with one conviction does not have to mention it is my usnerstanding.

There are things which can be filtered out of a DBS check (even an enhanced DBS).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dbs-filtering-guidance/dbs-filtering-guide

This states that a certificate must include the following:

• cautions relating to an offence from a list agreed by Parliament (see below)
• cautions given less than 6 years ago (where individual 18 or over at the time of caution)
• cautions given less than 2 years ago (where individual under 18 at the time of caution)
• convictions relating to an offence from a prescribed list (see below)
• where the individual has more than one conviction offence all convictions will be included on the certificate (no conviction will be filtered)
• convictions that resulted in a custodial sentence (regardless of whether served)
• convictions which did not result in a custodial sentence, given less than 11 years ago (where individual 18 or over at the time of conviction)
• convictions which did not result in a custodial sentence, given less than 5.5 years ago (where individual under 18 at the time of conviction)

marlot

Comms69 wrote: »

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One conviction for murder would be quite important.....

A conviction for murder would be likely to result in a prison sentence, so will be on the DBS.

Even if there wasn't a prison sentence, the offence is likely to be on the list of offences that are always shown on DBS. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dbs-list-of-offences-that-will-never-be-filtered-from-a-criminal-record-check

NoNoDrama

There must be advise available at the Job Centre for people like you.

I do know there are quite a few companies that will not ask you or even still employee you (depending on severity of offence). Sadly you are looking at the low end of the scale, gig economy or factory jobs.

I'm not sure the big companies with the big pay will touch you but I'd seek further advise on that there maybe still a way in.