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Failure to make reasonable adjustments/threats

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  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    Belles1979 wrote: »
    I forget to do it. It takes literally around an hour spread in short bursts over 6 weeks and happens about three times a year, if that. I just don't understand the problem. I've even offered to take regular work off colleagues doing it to support them in supporting me.

    It might only be 3 hours work a year, but its over 18 weeks.

    Although I struggle to imagine what it is (a particular process report? an ongoing chemical test?) is it fair that on your colleagues doing the same role and getting the same money that you do not have to do it but they do? I'm surprised that they (or is it the employer?) will not swap equivalent tasks.

    But I can sort of see the employer's point of view, especially if its fundamental requirement of the job you do and other parts of the business rely on it being done.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    Belles1979 wrote: »
    Thanks for this.

    Any thoughts on telling me I have to make myself fit or dismissal?
    Possibly. But I'm not sure what you mean? I can't make you fit. If I had that secret I'd use it on me first!
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    nicechap wrote: »
    It might only be 3 hours work a year, but its over 18 weeks.

    Although I struggle to imagine what it is (a particular process report? an ongoing chemical test?) is it fair that on your colleagues doing the same role and getting the same money that you do not have to do it but they do? I'm surprised that they (or is it the employer?) will not swap equivalent tasks.

    But I can sort of see the employer's point of view, especially if its fundamental requirement of the job you do and other parts of the business rely on it being done.
    Reasonable adjustments have nothing to do with what colleagues think is fair.
  • sangie595 wrote: »
    Possibly. But I'm not sure what you mean? I can't make you fit. If I had that secret I'd use it on me first!

    Sorry! :D I meant did you have any thoughts on them telling me that I had 6 months to make myself fit to do every part of my role or they will dismiss me, in effect that I have to stop being disabled. Surely they can't do that?
  • nicechap wrote: »
    It might only be 3 hours work a year, but its over 18 weeks.

    Although I struggle to imagine what it is (a particular process report? an ongoing chemical test?) is it fair that on your colleagues doing the same role and getting the same money that you do not have to do it but they do? I'm surprised that they (or is it the employer?) will not swap equivalent tasks.

    But I can sort of see the employer's point of view, especially if its fundamental requirement of the job you do and other parts of the business rely on it being done.

    And there are 6 of us doing it.....

    It's the employer.

    The European Human Rights Commission even state in their guidance for employers that a section of a person's role should be considered for removal to enable full undertaking of a job description if deemed necessary from disability.
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    Belles1979 wrote: »
    Sorry! :D I meant did you have any thoughts on them telling me that I had 6 months to make myself fit to do every part of my role or they will dismiss me, in effect that I have to stop being disabled. Surely they can't do that?
    No, sorry, I wish I had. I know you are probably doing anything and everything you can to be fit and healthy. For yourself and not for them! Ignore that, that's a stupid demand, no matter what...

    What you need to do is to co-operate and record your co-operation in writing at every turn. Everything. Every word now, needs to be in writing. If someone says something to you verbally, then you email them to "confirm" what they said to you.

    You see, I don't know whether what they are saying is "fair" or not. I don't know what you do, or why they think this is important. But I do know that written records are critical. If it isn't "fair", well that's life. Life is fair. The point is that if it isn't legally fair you need verifiable records. Equally, you need to be able to show what you have done to reasonably try to do this. So if you can't remember your blood test - how do you get them done? Can you put in place any systems that support you? Can your employer? Offering solutions may be a way forward.

    But in law, evidence is all. So you collect evidence. All the way. All the time. Even when they try to do or say things that aren't evidenced.
  • What I don't understand is why the employer can't ask a colleague to facilitate the OP doing this job. OP, are you in an office all by yourself? If not, it seems to me totally reasonable that someone is detailed to remind you to do the job AND STAY WITH YOU UNTIL YOU START IT each day.
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  • shortcrust
    shortcrust Posts: 2,697 Forumite
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    edited 25 January 2018 at 10:43PM
    Surely a reasonable adjustment would be to have a diary with these tasks listed that gets checked every day.
  • A dairy might be quite expensive. A diary, on the other hand...:rotfl:
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  • shortcrust
    shortcrust Posts: 2,697 Forumite
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    A dairy might be quite expensive. A diary, on the other hand...:rotfl:

    :D It's my attention to detail that's got me where I am today...
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