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Accused of Stealing Money at Work

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  • sangie595 wrote: »
    It means that they have made a decision. Unless there is tangible proof to the contrary, they won't change that decision.
    Ah, fair enough!

    Though, thankfully, the manager was right in my scenario!!
  • newatc
    newatc Posts: 890 Forumite
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    Received this today and we are thinking of making an appeal to clear my wife's name.


    Any ideas how to respond or have a good template I could follow?

    Thanks

    It seems unlikely that you are going to succeed at an appeal without new information but if you can accept that (and not extend your sense of injustice) I would appeal on principle, underlining your innocence and keeping the company investing their time.
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Received this today and we are thinking of making an appeal to clear my wife's name.

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=116CM3cGs_7aw3aUqQiGBpXWDrL-rVwAN

    Any ideas how to respond or have a good template I could follow?

    Thanks

    Imho that's a pretty amateurish effort.

    As others have said they do not need concrete proof, or proof 'beyond reasonable doubt' that your partner stole the money, but they do have to have reasonable belief. To my mind 'you were the main cashier' doesn't provide that, though ultimately it would be up to a tribunal to decide.

    'You couldn't explain where the money went' is irrelevant. Why would she be able to?

    'You had your training'. As if they have to train you not to steal.

    I think it's worth pointing out that others had access to the partner's log in.

    I'd say seek advice but with less than two years service she can't claim unfair dismissal, though she could try to bring a claim for her notice period (ie wrongful dismissal) but that could be a long shot.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Kayalana99
    Kayalana99 Posts: 3,626 Forumite
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    edited 2 February 2018 at 9:30AM
    Tbh from a cash office POV it would be very silly for them to wake up one day and say right we're going to see if this person is stealing and then fired someone on their first offense.

    To me this sounds like they have had issues for a while as this is what we do when we have concerns, and put certain people under certain tests to see if they would take the bait.

    I would think this isn't the first time her name has 'flagged' up for this to happen and if she pursues this I'm sure other things would come to light.

    Who would you believe? The person who's name has a constant show on tills that have lost money, or the Duty manager (I believe Donald the only other person on the till?) would have stolen it.

    With the cash error, I can only speak for the system I used to run, but if you were supposed to put £250 in a till and for what ever reason left it £100 short, that £100 would have shown up elsewhere. It's basically a case of theft or nothing because everything is accounted for. As for the '£123' it's very common that tills can be up or down by a few pounds so personally would say someone has stolen £120.
    People don't know what they want until you show them.
  • GlasweJen
    GlasweJen Posts: 7,451 Forumite
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    No one should have had access to your partners log in, not even managers so how did that come about?

    When I worked in a supermarket our log ins were our employee number and then a random number generator gave us our password, I still remember mine 11 years later! It was a sackable offence to even write your till password down never mind share it with someone else. If a supervisor or manager needed access to your till they either had you sign off and step away (usually for big cash lifts) or they’d over ride your “Just a till operator” status with a supervisor code or managers key.

    Is the situation that your wife claims she wasn’t the only person on the till but the till is telling senior management that she was because she handed out her password? If so she’s screwed and might as well give up now.
  • aife
    aife Posts: 220 Forumite
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    Re. the till - perhaps she just didn't log out ?
    And then the question would be was she negligent in just not bothering , or did the manager come along and say 'don't bother with that , just let me jump in quickly ...'
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