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Good morning
Just a quick question please.. My debts are all with DCA's now and not the original lender.
Are the DCA's able to default me on a debt that has already been defaulted by the original lender?
Any advice would be great, thanks

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  • SusieT
    SusieT Posts: 1,267 Forumite
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    I think they can change the account to their name if they have bought it, but they cannot change the date of the default.
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  • thank you, I am in the process of trying to settle and have requested CCA's, however I didn't want to incur further defaults as most have dropped off my credit file after being on a DMP since 2009
  • SusieT
    SusieT Posts: 1,267 Forumite
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    They may try to pull a fast one, but it is rare and the CRA would have to act. Asking for the CCA should not trigger it though :)
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    Home improvement secured loans 30,130/41,000 and 23,156/28,000 End 2027 and 2029
    Mortgage 64,513/100,000 End Nov 2035
    2022 all rolling into new mortgage + extra to finish house. 125,000 End 2036
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,503 Ambassador
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    Debts can only default once.

    Usual practice is for the old owner to stop reporting on your file, and the new owner to take over.

    The original default date will stay the same, if it doesn't, complain.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thanks Sourcrates, you recently advised me on obtaining CCA's before I try to do F & F settlements, which I have done but Cabot are being very difficult.
    they are saying that they provided this in 2013 & they have no obligation to do this again and want to know why I want this.
    any advise would be greatly appreciated.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,503 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts I've been Money Tipped! Name Dropper
    Thanks Sourcrates, you recently advised me on obtaining CCA's before I try to do F & F settlements, which I have done but Cabot are being very difficult.
    they are saying that they provided this in 2013 & they have no obligation to do this again and want to know why I want this.
    any advise would be greatly appreciated.

    Actually they do have an obligation to provide them, so they are wrong.

    Write back and remind them of that.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thanks for this, I have emailed them back to this effect, so will wait to see what they say.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Only legal exception Cabot could use would be:
    (3) Subsection (1) does not apply to—

    (a) an agreement under which no sum is, or will or may become, payable by the debtor, or

    (b) a request made less than one month after a previous request under that subsection relating to the same agreement was complied with.

    So Cabot are lying that they don't have to comply.
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  • Thanks for this, I have never felt very confident in handling creditors so everyone's advice on here has been invaluable and I do appreciate it.
    As my salary has decreased significantly due to a change in employer, I want to offer f & f settlements with the little I have saved to get rid of this.
    I have made significant impact into my debts having been in a DMP since 2009 and I have learnt some hard lessons along the way.
  • Just out of curiosity, I am assuming that organisations like Cabot use these tactics as they assume most people are like myself very naive & lack confidence in dealing with them? I find it incredulous that they feel it is ok to behave in this way when they have rules to follow.
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