Would you accept unrelenting boredom for £50k p/a?

silverwhistle

McCloud1 wrote: »

Exactly, I actually hate that we can get away with charging so much for old rope. It takes away any pleasure you could otherwise take in being 100% accurate, which would take forever and be irrelevant in the vast majority of cases.

Heh, heh. Reminds me of my early days in an IT department when I was responsible for calling off and despatching various print-outs. I'd occasionally hold on to them just to see who yelled because they were actually using them and noticed their absence..

But as Pennywise alludes to, it does all seem against the general principle that data builds up from the bottom. Actually it's a general rule in any quality environment, you check the components, sub-components, sub-assemblies etc, before doing any final checks before something goes out the door. The earlier you pick up issues the better.

When the utility I was working with merged with others, dealing and merging the customer data (different formats and breakdown, content, accuracy..) was an excellent example of this principle!

Back to the outside of work aspect again, and you've given an excellent account of the enervating effects of your job. Personally I'm just lazy and have always lacked drive, such that I don't even have a telly or Netflix, which would pander to my laziness. But I've never missed a team training session because I didn't feel like it, or was suffering the weariness you describe so well. Afterwards you feel better and you sleep well too. Going out for training runs on my own is a different matter, however much I promise myself I will.

Anyway, you've had some good responses on this thread and a little food for thought during frequent breaks.. :-)

TELLIT01

xapprenticex wrote: »

For £50k id give it a go for sure. upper tax bracket must burn though, im sure you can get a radio playing, some jeremy kyle in the background going?

I think that tells us more about the respondent than the OP. :rotfl:

In answer to the OP, probably for a short time to build up some funds, but not for the long term. I thought the idea of working from home was a wonderful one, until I retired and now spend the vast majority of my time alone. Work colleagues, even annoying ones and one's you really don't get on with, add variety to the day. That can be missing when working on your own. Being retired I do at least have the freedom to go out and do other things to break the day up,

MataNui

I have a background in automation and one thing is for sure and that is this job wont last forever. A few things spring to mind.
1: You dont need to automate it to give you 100% matching. If you can accurately match just half of the stuff automatically then you are on to a winner.
2: You dont see it as possible because you dont have the experience. Reasonable pattern matching should get you a good match rate. With the advances in AI and the amount of data you would have available for training and testing i bet you could get that up to a very good rate. The stuff other departments are currently working on with AI in my current employer are honestly staggering.
3: If your employer ever took this to an automation specialist you would probably be out of work (or on a significantly lower rate) pretty quickly.

Enjoy the money while you can, save as much as you can because this sort of thing wont last forever. The number of times i have been amazed by some of the pointless manual admin tasks companies have people doing while saying it would be impossible for a machine to do it is nuts. Normally... I am very happy to prove them wrong.

getmore4less

Humans are very well adapted to this sort of behaviour requirement to achieve goals,

A good job or a lot of places would cease to function.

It also exhibits in things like OCD, habitual and addictive activities along with workaholics.

Very visible with gaming with some really struggling to get out of the habit.

I recall my early life being a bit to much into games(remember wolfenstien) and much later got hooked on Total war for over a year.

McCloud1

getmore4less wrote: »

if these guys are making very big money(£500ph) then paying big money(£190ph) to get something done is not a problem, and if the person getting paid big money can pay someone normal money(£25ph**) to get the job done there is margin for a few people in the chain.

** £25ph is around £52k per year for an employee getting holiday pay
Farming out the work for £30ph is not good business on your part unless you bonus is really good

The clients are making far more than that for the most part. I don't farm out work at £30 per hour for business, I've made the offer to all the friends and family who make envious comments about my situation, solely to prove a point. They only get one go!

silverwhistle wrote: »

Heh, heh. Reminds me of my early days in an IT department when I was responsible for calling off and despatching various print-outs. I'd occasionally hold on to them just to see who yelled because they were actually using them and noticed their absence..

But as Pennywise alludes to, it does all seem against the general principle that data builds up from the bottom. Actually it's a general rule in any quality environment, you check the components, sub-components, sub-assemblies etc, before doing any final checks before something goes out the door. The earlier you pick up issues the better.

When the utility I was working with merged with others, dealing and merging the customer data (different formats and breakdown, content, accuracy..) was an excellent example of this principle!

Back to the outside of work aspect again, and you've given an excellent account of the enervating effects of your job. Personally I'm just lazy and have always lacked drive, such that I don't even have a telly or Netflix, which would pander to my laziness. But I've never missed a team training session because I didn't feel like it, or was suffering the weariness you describe so well. Afterwards you feel better and you sleep well too. Going out for training runs on my own is a different matter, however much I promise myself I will.

Anyway, you've had some good responses on this thread and a little food for thought during frequent breaks.. :-)

I certainly have, thanks for your comments! Ha, a little more frequent today...looks like I'll be doing until 21:00ish at this rate.

ska_lover

I would do it.

To be fair though, I quite like low stress, repetitive work - that others find tedious. The lack of commute, a Manager and difficult colleagues make this a great option for me

I would like to think I would be organised and be at my desk by 8am each day but it would be nice to have the flexibility to start of finish later etc

Manxman_in_exile

McCloud1 wrote: »

I'm trying very hard to be vague enough that colleagues/clients cannot identify me whilst giving a true picture of just how boring it is. I don't have to do 100,000 per day.

Ok -but you mentioned 100,000 per day - as I mentioned earlier, an incredible number to complete within a nine hour day.


So is it 100,000 or 10.000 or 1,000 or 100 in a nine hour day?


100,000 is an incredible figure - but that's the one you gave.


1,000 per day is Ok for £50k pa I would say.


Get your figures right for meaningful advice.
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Gavin83

I'd happily do that. By all means give me the details of your company and I'll apply for a job there. However I would look to automate as much of the job as possible to the point I was barely doing anything. I'll tell you what, if you get me a job there I'll even share my solution with you so you can do the same.

I currently earn a little over £50k a year working in IT with data, although my job is far more interesting than yours and I actually get to build solutions to problems. I'm not sure I could do a job that would bore me day in, day out. I also work from home a lot but that suits me perfectly.

McCloud1

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

Ok -but you mentioned 100,000 per day - as I mentioned earlier, an incredible number to complete within a nine hour day.


So is it 100,000 or 10.000 or 1,000 or 100 in a nine hour day?


100,000 is an incredible figure - but that's the one you gave.


1,000 per day is Ok for £50k pa I would say.


Get your figures right for meaningful advice.
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I can totally see why you could interpret my post to mean I have to complete 100,000 entries per day, but no I did not ever say that.

How many entries I am expected to do is irrelevant to the point, I have to work for 9 hours each day and it's always doing this. Each spreadsheet takes as long as it takes, and there's always one more to do.

aife

If i was you , 27 and at my peak , I wouldn't fancy it.
In my own position - twice your age and earning about half as much for a stressful job involving shiftwork , commuting and horrible bosses - I'd jump at it.
Five years at that rate would allow me to clear my debts and have a shot at doing what I really want to do .
But why five years ? Is that just hypothetical or some kind of contractual obligation ?
either way , as others have already said , I don't think you can count on it lasting that long