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Zero contracts and Holidays
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He should ask. It's actually for their benefit for him to have a written contract.I don't think he has even being given contract or i don't remember one, he started August 16.God knows how many hours he has worked this year! But he has done sometimes 15 or 16 hours a weekend. They are not the nicest company to work for.0 -
How can you have set hours in a zero hours contract? Which of the zero hours can be set?
I was replying to you saying why shouldn't he work xmas Eve..... why should he if he's not contracted for Sundays? From other advice here I gather he can refuse a shift.... I have told him to offer to work Boxing Day or another day, he's not workshy he has always shown up for his shift unlike some there who don't even bother to turn up though i doubt that means little to Mcdonolds who think they cn do what they like. If he works a 8 hour shift they will send you on a break an hour into your shift, then expect him to work over 6 hours without a break, they are not the best employers but until something better comes up...0 -
I was replying to you saying why shouldn't he work xmas Eve..... why should he if he's not contracted for Sundays? From other advice here I gather he can refuse a shift.... I have told him to offer to work Boxing Day or another day, he's not workshy he has always shown up for his shift unlike some there who don't even bother to turn up though i doubt that means little to Mcdonolds who think they cn do what they like. If he works a 8 hour shift they will send you on a break an hour into your shift, then expect him to work over 6 hours without a break, they are not the best employers but until something better comes up...
Anyone can refuse to work a shift. Somebody with a 40 hours contract can refuse to go in one Monday if they dont want to work, but they would face disciplinary action or the sack. Same with zero hours. Why are McDonalds going to want have workers that refuse to work on their busiest days?0 -
I was replying to you saying why shouldn't he work xmas Eve..... why should he if he's not contracted for Sundays? From other advice here I gather he can refuse a shift.... I have told him to offer to work Boxing Day or another day, he's not workshy he has always shown up for his shift unlike some there who don't even bother to turn up though i doubt that means little to Mcdonolds who think they cn do what they like. If he works a 8 hour shift they will send you on a break an hour into your shift, then expect him to work over 6 hours without a break, they are not the best employers but until something better comes up...
Not the best employers but nothing better available? That suggests they are the best employers.
They do also regularly rank quite high on the best large employers to work for lists.
Anecdotally, everyone i know who has worked there has enjoyed it. Ok theyll complain about low pay, long hours and customer facing but thats the job, not the employer.
If its zero hours he can refuse to work the shift. Worth remembering that itll annoy those who divvy out the work. If hes one of the better workers i doubt it will effect him that much, if its something he does regularly (doesnt sound like it) id expect them to be more cautious giving him work in future. It doesnt sound like they should be overly aggrieved by it being a rar instance but i dont know their policies or culture.0 -
Anyone can refuse to work a shift. Somebody with a 40 hours contract can refuse to go in one Monday if they dont want to work, but they would face disciplinary action or the sack. Same with zero hours. Why are McDonalds going to want have workers that refuse to work on their busiest days?
Im sure they dont want those workers. They facilitate those workers with their contracts though.
Zero hour contracts are all about mutual benefits. Mcdonalds doesnt win employing someone who only works when they want to. The employee doesnt win being employed to work specific shifts they cant.
A consequence of having zero hour contracts is you usually need a bank of staff to facilitate your busiest times of the year. McDonald dont want your specfic question but what they do want is flexible employees who can mostly accommodate the needs of the business.
I cant imagine many people would work for them only for their busiest periods. Its not really practical to anyone having a bank holiday job so they simply wouldnt get the staff. Flexibility works both ways, mcdonalds will be aware of this. They will expect some of their staff to refuse to work on certain occasions. Habitual refusers will be sussed quickly and i imagine pushed out quickly enough.0 -
Anyone can refuse to work a shift. Somebody with a 40 hours contract can refuse to go in one Monday if they dont want to work, but they would face disciplinary action or the sack. Same with zero hours. Why are McDonalds going to want have workers that refuse to work on their busiest days?
If he had a contract he would not be refusing to work,but thank you for your advice.0 -
Two key elements of a true zero hours, can be unavailable when you want ie decline offers to work, work elsewhere when you want(even if it says in the contract you can't that is not enforceable)
Check the contract carefully chances are it is not a true zero hours.0 -
Not the best employers but nothing better available? That suggests they are the best employers.
They do also regularly rank quite high on the best large employers to work for lists.
Anecdotally, everyone i know who has worked there has enjoyed it. Ok theyll complain about low pay, long hours and customer facing but thats the job, not the employer.
If its zero hours he can refuse to work the shift. Worth remembering that itll annoy those who divvy out the work. If hes one of the better workers i doubt it will effect him that much, if its something he does regularly (doesnt sound like it) id expect them to be more cautious giving him work in future. It doesnt sound like they should be overly aggrieved by it being a rar instance but i dont know their policies or culture.
He has not looked seriously for another job, as to McDonalds being a good employer, well if you like being sworn at, told you are arrogant for being in the Sixth Form, even on one occasion attacked by a team leader for daring to talk to said team leaders GF, then Mcdonalds is the place for you:o
But! I will not advise him to leave until he finds another job:)0 -
He has not looked seriously for another job, as to McDonalds being a good employer, well if you like being sworn at, told you are arrogant for being in the Sixth Form, even on one occasion attacked by a team leader for daring to talk to said team leaders GF, then Mcdonalds is the place for you:o
But! I will not advise him to leave until he finds another job:)
1: swearing raise a grievance. Or leave.
2: told you are arrogant - look beyond the present. Your son will likely be interviewing this team leader one day.
3: attacked - report it to police.
That said, those experiences are not typical of mcdonalds or any other employer. So yes, by and large they actually are a good employer. BUT unfortunately your son has had a bad experience0
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