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Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

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  • zippydooda
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    tweets wrote: »
    You can keep that I rather have a pepsi max :D

    Enjoy it :beer:

    Did your horse win ? or is it still running trying to catch up :rotfl::rotfl:
    They still playing are the muppets its half time
    it was favourite, think it come last :rotfl:
  • zippydooda
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    tweets wrote: »
    You can keep that I rather have a pepsi max :D

    Enjoy it :beer:

    Did your horse win ? or is it still running trying to catch up :rotfl::rotfl:
    They still playing are the muppets its half time

    At least they are top of the bottom half :rotfl:

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  • davemorton
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    Oh I worry about myself at times, in thought everyone had 2 quidco accounts, I didnt realise you clicked on both retailers. I still didn't win but at least I know now

    I bought the campo yesterday JTS you are damaging my monthly allowance, it woll make a nice present.
    Well why is it still £12 in my store, not fair!
    zippydooda wrote: »

    Is that £10 or 10p then??
    “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
  • zippydooda
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    davemorton wrote: »
    Well why is it still £12 in my store, not fair!



    Is that £10 or 10p then??
    it was c&p so follow the link and see for yourself. :D 10p
  • mhoc
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    Savvy I expect that you are still in bed recovering from last night marathon posting session :)

    I need your expert thought son the subject of oranges - best places to get them ideally in bulk for the cheapest prices.

    OH has taken to eating oranges as if they are going out of fashion - never bothered before with fruit other than the odd banana but now he can eat 2 or even 3 oranges a night!
    (I suppose its better than the biscuit eating but he still manages to produce a tide line around where he is sitting ...)

    So maybe 20 oranges a week - I've just been getting packs of 5 or 6 at a time from wherever we are but he is always running out - yes he does have a desperately sweet tooth and possibly type 2 lies ahead. And yes he is an expensive man to keep.

    When we have been away and we have a look at local supermarkets they seem to do huge bags of oranges - we even saw them in Alta, massive bags of 20 oranges from the Canary Islands! So they are available above the artic circle but its a bit far to go for a normal shopping trip!


    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Just had a final thought tonight.

    Sadly, I think people generally will go for "even lower prices". It will resonate more than "Asda Price Guarantee". Most people always go for a worst possible option, that actually sees them paying more, because they don't know the alternatives or don't understand how something more complex works. "Even lower prices" is simple. Even if it is much worse.

    It's the same with... does anyone remember T or somewhere having "simple prices on the shelf"? The problem, for me, with the "simple" price was that it was a higher price than before. I really dislike, nowadays, things that are said to be "simple". I prefer things that are complicated as they are far better. The problem with things that are simple is that they are unhelpfully straightforward and there is no loophole in the rules that can be found to get something better or to really save money. As they can't give the cheapest prices to everyone and make money, the simple scheme that applies to everyone is therefore much worse. I want the complicated one that few understand, that people generally make mistakes on, allowing the provider to leave me with a cheaper deal that does allow them to make money as most other people have failed to understand how it works and are paying for me to have the cheaper deal. A dysfunctional system where those who understand it (namely me) are rewarded for our hard work in understanding it and our ability in using it. Far better if there is a nice, fiendish complex scheme under which, if you use it in a particular way, it costs you way much less:money:.

    Unfortunately, selling something as being "complicated" does not work. Instead, sometimes you can get tripped up by claims that something is "simple" when in fact it's a complex scheme that makes it appear simple but needs to be done in a particular way, that most people do not understand, for it to pay the best amount or get you the cheapest price.
    “Create all the happiness you are able to create; remove all the misery you are able to remove. Every day will allow you, --will invite you to add something to the pleasure of others, --or to diminish something of their pains.”
  • Savvybuyer
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    edited 7 October 2018 at 12:54AM
    TrulyMadly wrote: »
    I'm definitely not sniffing that paw:rotfl::rotfl:

    Evening all

    Or is it afternoon......?

    Savvy will know:rotfl:

    I have long stuck rigidly to 12 midnight to 12 noon being morning, 12 noon to 6pm being afternoon and 6pm to 12 midnight being evening, because it fits into nice segments of 6 hours or a multiple of 6 hours each. Yet around 10am-11am is referred to as "mid-morning"?!?:huh: It should be 5am-7am. If 10-11am is mid-morning, then the morning would either start at 9am, which clearly it doesn't as hours around breakfast-time (approx. 6am-8am) are part of "morning", or morning must run well into the afternoon:rotfl:.

    My calendar date, and day of the week, starts at 12 midnight, regardless of the time of year. Most people's doesn't seem to: their day seems to start at 2am and between 12midnight and 2am, they are still on the previous day: phrases such as "tonight", between 12midnight and 2am meaning the same overnight period, whereas if I say "tonight" immediately after 12midnight, I mean a period starting around 18 hours away. If I want to refer to other people's "tonight" and it's already after midnight, then I am on "this morning" as including the overnight period at that time and well as all the rest of the morning until midday. For me, "tonight" at 12midnight-2am (or, bizarrely, even later than that) was people's last night and has already gone (6pm-midnight). Some of that may be other people's evening (6pm maybe until 8pm) with their tonight from around 8pm or sunset (may vary depending on the time of year and location in the country) until 2am(?)!?!

    For me, morning is 12 midnight to 12 midday and it may be in two parts: 12 midnight to 6am as overnight morning (may end earlier in the summer when the sun has risen: it isn't then overnight but is day) and the rest as morning morning. However, only recently I discovered that, during parts of June/July, there technically isn't any night at all since the sun never goes below 18 degrees and the most it gets is astronomical twilight. Therefore, I can't now have any overnight in June/July: there is no night. And for me there isn't any "daytime, civil twilight, nautical twilight" and then "rest of the night" as astronomical twilight, as that is twilight and not night.

    There is then the question of a division between evening and night. My "evening" runs from 6pm to midnight, at which time it is night as the sky is dark, yet there is no night in part of June/July and into August in some places, but after midnight is also morning. People's "night" seems to start earlier than mine: around 8pm maybe when I am still on "evening". Their "tonight" seems to be my evening and early hours of the morning, but ending around sunrise. Saying "tonight" at 5 minutes past midnight is ridiculous to me as it is now morning: it's a new day and "tonight" is therefore now nearly 18 hours away. As regards "night" (maybe "tonight"), the News at Ten at night(?), evening is still introduced with "Good evening" - they don't say "Good night" at the start.

    That leaves us the question of when evening begins. My evening has a strict start at 6pm, probably because I like nice neat divisions of half as morning and equal quarters of afternoon and evening (they have to be equal, otherwise they are not quarters). 5pm to 6pm is usually the period where some are on afternoon and some on evening. For me I am on afternoon until 6pm, then on evening. When there was a news at 5.40 however, it was always the "Early Evening" News and not "Late Afternoon". I used to insist it was still afternoon! The Six O'Clock News on the other side was then evening.

    As regards whether it is afternoon or evening between 5pm and 6pm, surely the BBC would know? On the News Channel they normally have BBC News at Five between 5pm and 6pm on weekdays. Huw Edwards starts with "Today at five..." (suggesting afternoon, or at least day (and not evening or night)) but Jane Hill always begins with "Tonight at five...". For Huw it is day but for Jane it is night. Day and night are opposing - how can it be both(?)?!?:huh: "Tonight" would suggest evening, even though it says night (and Jane says this even when, in high summer, there is no night). Various other presenters who may cover the News at Five refer to today, tonight and good afternoon and good evening. It just depends on who you get and sometimes even the same presenter says afternoon on some occasions and evening on others. They might not consciously be thinking about it, after all sometimes if you've been working since 8 or 9am and pick up the phone after midday, you might still say, in error, "Good morning" when you meant to say "Good afternoon" and, if you have been working since 2pm, you might say "Good afternoon" at 5pm (and maybe even 6pm if you forget how late it is) but if you started your workday at 5pm and were working late, you might start on "Good evening".

    Tonight (is it yet tonight?), or at least this evening, is an excellent night (or day) to check as both the National and Regional News began between 5 and 6pm: the National News at 5.20pm and Regional News (England) and news in the three Nations at 5.30pm. So, what do BBC presenters think?

    The National News at 5.20pm, it was apparently evening.
    The Regional News/News Nations 5.30pm: despite being "evening" at 5.20, it then went back to afternoon in Cambridge and in the East (shared programme) at 5.30 - Hello, good afternoon
    Farther south, where daylight may last longer, perhaps afternoon continues until later in the day doesn't it?!?:
    Channel Islands/South West (simulcast) - Hello, good evening
    Apparently not.
    Let's try the East Midlands. Cambridge was afternoon so a bit north of there it is: "Now the news for the East Midlands, good evening..."
    Farther north, it's still evening:
    East Yorkshire/Lincolnshire - "Hello and good evening from Look North..."
    London - "Welcome to BBC London News...", so we don't know although the sign-off about five minutes later said "But for now, from all of us, have a very good evening." This seems unclear as to whether, five minutes earlier, it could still have been afternoon and evening began during the programme in between or this could have been saying it is evening at 5.35, wishing people a good evening, or it could be saying "Have a very good evening" (in other words, have a very good evening, later on tonight). The jury is out but, on balance, it was probably evening or just about teetering into it.
    We might imagine, as it was clear and blatant "evening" in the East Midlands and in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, as we went farther north it might even more be that way...
    North East & Cumbria - Good afternoon (:rotfl:)
    Farther west the sun may set later, so if it's afternoon in the North East & Cumbria, surely that afternoon would last longer in Northern Ireland?:think:
    Northern Ireland - Good evening and welcome to BBC Newsline
    Oh, no it doesn't (surprised):rotfl:.
    North West - Hello, good evening.
    Scotland is surely on evening by now (17:30): Good evening. [Yes it is - however I have heard "Good afternoon" on Reporting Scotland around this time of day before.]
    Wales - Hello good evening noswaith dda
    Oxfordshire/South (simulcast) - Hello and welcome to South Today [Therefore we don't know; there was no sign off at the end of the programme that told us either.]
    South East - Good evening
    West - Hello good evening from Points West
    So, going a bit north, surely remains evening?
    West Midlands - Good afternoon (:rotfl:)
    Going north and east a bit, does it now remain afternoon or become evening? The answer...
    Yorkshire - Good evening

    So, 10 evenings, one possible further evening but might not, one unknown or two unknowns if the possible one is unclear, and [Strike]two[/Strike] three afternoons [EDIT: I can't count and, even worse, no-one corrected me:eek:]. Majority at mid-point of 5-6pm, in other words at 5.30pm, is evening. However, it could still be afternoon. Besides, anyway, who said that the majority of people were right? Perhaps the minority are right. A little earlier, when I have done this survey at about 5.10pm start of the late afternoon/early evening regional news, there have been more afternoons, resulting in a couple more evenings than afternoons. It went from south to north from evening, through afternoon, back to evening and back to afternoon again:rotfl:. For me, it's still "afternoon" until 6pm. Most people seem to be on evening somewhere between 5 and 6pm, although there is doubt as to the precise moment and it seems to vary by several minutes up to half an hour and more for different people.

    I "know" for myself, in that I have thought and known it to be afternoon 12midday-6pm (midday itself is not afternoon as it is noon: however a fraction of second past noon is afternoon, although some or many people would still call that noon. Tonight's(?) National news presenter, Ben Brown, often says things such as "It's now 4.30 exactly", when it is 4.30 and 16 seconds past the hour. For me, that is not exactly 4.30. However, "4.30 exactly" could mean anywhere between 4.30.00 and 4.30.59 and a fraction of a split second before 4.31.00, as that is still "4.30". Except that for me it's not 4.30 - it's 4.30 and 16 seconds or whatever. However, on one view something like 12.00.16 is still 12.00 and therefore noon. Even though, for me, it's 12.00.16 in the afternoon as it is sixteen seconds past noon - noon 12.00.00 - otherwise if we are going to discount seconds and disallow fractions of minutes to count as "past" those minutes and not a minute until the next minute starts, then we may as well discount minutes and only allow full hours to count? And then we would be with 12.59 as still being noon, which to me clearly it is not - that is clear afternoon!). Given that different people seem to have different views between 5 and 6pm as to whether it is afternoon or evening, I don't know anymore at all:rotfl:. And it may, for some people, shift slightly around the year, so that in summer, 5pm is afternoon as it is still light and evening may begin later (probably around 6pm) but in winter, when the sun has set by 5pm, it's already evening; although for me my black and white divide line is bang on 6pm under whichever time zone we are using and doesn't vary throughout the year (except that since we are doing everything an hour early between near end March and near end October, 7 months of the year:eek:, and calling it 6pm even when it is still 5pm, my evening in summertime somehow starts at 7pm as I am deceived into thinking that it is already 6pm so have moved to evening an hour early from near end March-near end October which I am still calling 6pm (6pm BST) My evening, when it is not BST, starts at 6pm GMT (or it should be UTC but many people may think it's GMT)).

    The above 'tour of the country' is, of course, just individual people who happen to be presenting today's regional/nations news programmes and what they've said, and isn't meant to be used to suggest anything in the way I have used it.
  • tweets
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    zippydooda wrote: »
    it was favourite, think it come last :rotfl:


    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • tweets
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    zippydooda wrote: »
    At least they are top of the bottom half :rotfl:

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    Westie , Alto and a few others will be :j if score stays like this.
  • fuzzgun19
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    Is shoprize available anymore? I’ve checked both android and iPhone and it’s not appearing.
    I Hate Jobsworths!!!
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