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Advice following recent job applications
sky_fall
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Hi there,
I was hoping for some advice if I may as I'm a little unsure how to proceed with this and if this actually allowed...I've recently started working for a multi-national company within the UK (approximately 3 months now) and propping up on the work's emails are lots of positions coming up for which I have applied for.
Some of these positions I would say I do not have lots of experience in (although the job descriptions do not state a particular length of experience required) but nevertheless, I have put forward my CV and Covering Letter as asked in a professional manner for the respective positions.
Now the thing is, my applications have not been acknowledged e.g. the 'We can confirm we have received your application' message nor has feedback been given to me about whether my application has been rejected and on what basis (if this is the case).
I can now see on the internal vacancy list these positions I applied for have been removed in some cases or simply have 'closing date extended' under the closing date column. Therefore, I have no idea when the posts will be closing.
I have contacted HR on numerous occasions who have simply not replied to me and my Line Manager does not seem interested.
But, I wanted to ask if the company is able to create job posts and simply remove them if, and when they feel like it and what do you advise to someone like me that is applying for positions and not getting anywhere?
I would like to remain at the company as some of the positions on offer provide fantastic prospects but if things carry on like this, I'm not too sure...
Many thanks,
I was hoping for some advice if I may as I'm a little unsure how to proceed with this and if this actually allowed...I've recently started working for a multi-national company within the UK (approximately 3 months now) and propping up on the work's emails are lots of positions coming up for which I have applied for.
Some of these positions I would say I do not have lots of experience in (although the job descriptions do not state a particular length of experience required) but nevertheless, I have put forward my CV and Covering Letter as asked in a professional manner for the respective positions.
Now the thing is, my applications have not been acknowledged e.g. the 'We can confirm we have received your application' message nor has feedback been given to me about whether my application has been rejected and on what basis (if this is the case).
I can now see on the internal vacancy list these positions I applied for have been removed in some cases or simply have 'closing date extended' under the closing date column. Therefore, I have no idea when the posts will be closing.
I have contacted HR on numerous occasions who have simply not replied to me and my Line Manager does not seem interested.
But, I wanted to ask if the company is able to create job posts and simply remove them if, and when they feel like it and what do you advise to someone like me that is applying for positions and not getting anywhere?
I would like to remain at the company as some of the positions on offer provide fantastic prospects but if things carry on like this, I'm not too sure...
Many thanks,
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Yes the can create and remove posts as they see fit. They may be working through a pile of Cc's or your application may have been wide of the mark. My suggestion is to do your job and get to understand the business and how it works.0
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This is going to sound harsh, but your line manager isn't likely to be interested in helping you get another job when you've barely started this one, with all the upheaval a new member of staff brings.
And you may be provoking a 'heartsink' reaction in HR too. Oh no, not THEM again, why can't they just do their job for a bit instead of wasting our time applying for others.
I'd also suggest reading your company's handbook etc, you may even find there is guidance in there on how soon / often you can apply for other internal jobs.
Plus yes, what ssparks said ...Signature removed for peace of mind0 -
I agree with all of the above, plus...
Seriously, you've been with them for all of three months and the fact that they aren't seriously considering you for promotion and new opportunities, and your manager isn't promoting your career is sufficient to make you reconsider whether you want to work for this company? If that is your expectation of employment, then I'm afraid you are going to be doing a lot of job hopping.
In job applications these days, the norm is that if you didn't hear anything, they aren't interested. And if, after only three months at the company, you are applying for lots of jobs, internally or not, then you are sending an absolutely awful image of yourself to both your manager and HR. Especially if, as you say, you are applying for jobs that you know full well you don't have sufficient experience of to do well. The fact that they haven't specified a required period of experience isn't relevant. You know that you are taking a leap - because you've said so here - and that, done repeatedly, will suggest to them that you have no self awareness of your own capabilities. So when a job comes up that you did have the experience for, you are risking them going "not him/her again, they always apply for stuff they can't do" and your application is binned before they read it!
This is a multi-national. So a huge corporation. You are a minute cog in a machine. A very short lived minute cog in a machine. If you want to be a bigger cog, you need to prove yourself, and the first test of that will be performing above average and consistently over a period of time in your existing job. Three months is not sufficient a period of time to prove that. The impression you have already given them is "fly by night" - and now you actually have an adverse observation of your own making to overcome with them.0 -
Unless your current contract is relatively short (i.e. you need to be looking for a job to keep employed) the message that you're giving to the company and especially your line manager is that you want a different job, any different job.
That's not a good message, especially at the beginning of your employment.0 -
Many companies have a minimum time a person is expected to be in a role before they will be considered for another (this may be written or just custom and practice). Applying for every job that appears in the system, whether or not your skillset fits the requirement of the job, is wasting everybody's time and the only likely result is that any application made will go straight into File 13 (the bin).
Prove yourself in the role you have been employed to do before trying to progress.0 -
But, I wanted to ask if the company is able to create job posts and simply remove them if, and when they feel like it and what do you advise to someone like me that is applying for positions and not getting anywhere?
Many thanks,
Yes of course job advert's can be removed. Where the person leaving is able to change their mind or a decision taken of actually there isn't enough budget for this position to exist. I received a record 'unsuccessful email' a whole year after I applied for a position via a job board - reckon that only came about when they went to re-advertise and realised they hadn't gotten back to previous candidates from before, before they could advertise again. I've had all manner of strange things to a company contacting me who would reject any application I'd make to them so it all goes on!!
Is it the company culture to be a dept hopper or mover upper quickly? have you permission to apply for apply for other jobs? (I too didn't want to assume you were permanent). When I was in this environment my supervisor had come from short term jobs within and he actually was quite a leader for the wealth of knowledge about the business as a whole.0 -
Thanks guys for all the feedback and will certainly bear the points made in mind...I appreciate the time taken.
Just to add, the current role I'm doing is something I would definitely say I'm over qualified for and when joining the company, I was upfront in stating, I've had a look at some of their other roles and would I be supported in developing within the company. They have advised prior to offering me the position they are keen to support development, promote from within etc.
The company does have a 'we'll help you develop' culture and many colleagues very quickly (much faster than 3 months) find themselves moving departments and doing alternative roles. As they are a multi-national and most departments are expanding within the office (constantly), they need people to fill the roles.
But I guess I will have to bide my time until the opportunities arise.0 -
My company is extremely supportive of development - however, if someone joined and was looking for a different role within three months I'd be really frustrated that they didn't seem interested in doing their current role. It costs a lot to recruit and train someone for one job; letting them move to other roles so soon is expensive, unless it's something the company chooses to do.
I took a job at my current company because I wanted to join the organisation. I took a HUGE paycut - nearly 50% of what I was earning before. I was way over-experienced for the job. However, that was *my* choice, and whilst I knew there could be opportunities to move roles, I knew I needed to commit to what I'd said I'd do. I showed willingness to develop, but not an urgent need to desperately take any other job that I wasn't right for! I, personally, would say that most companies expect a year in role before moving on, depending on role and sector - you took the job, just get on and do it. Maybe in 6-9 months you can ask your manager about developing your career. And if they choose to promote other people sooner than you, that's up to them.' <-- See that? It's called an apostrophe. It does not mean "hey, look out, here comes an S".0
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