Reasons I left role problems. (long post sorry)

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I am just wandering about this as some reasons I left jobs sound ludicrous and they are the truth.

One job which I left in 2005 was because I was going to be investigated as why I was sending racist comments to a colleague. I am not racist. I never did this as my Windows NT account was hacked into. Two e-mails were sent when I was abroad and more e-mails were sent from computers that my work pass would not let me go into the room. I didn't know anyone outside my team at the place. Showing my boarding passes and a bank statement which showed a couple of transactions when abroad to a manager that raised this and taking him to the entrance to the area where one of the computers was used to swipe my pass against the panel by the door to prove it doesn't open - didn't change things. Then I mentioned my account was hacked and he replied "Don't talk rubbish"

The other job which was in 2008. I was in the job for 5 months I was unfairly dismissed as I was disconnecting too many calls. I was working in collections - so outbound calls. We were told to disconnect calls if it goes to an answering machine/voicemail, upon connection we get noises similar to ringing a fax machine or silence after saying "Hello (customers name)" several times. Then those customers that would not stop using inappropriate language after 3 times of you asking them to not to use it. I was called into an investigation as they were concerned that my disconnections were high. It was not my fault as the dialler gives the calls randomly. If another colleague got the same calls as me, they would have been in the same position as me.

I am considering changing my employer as I'm off sick with a bad ankle and struggle to be on my feet for a moderate period and no proper office jobs at my workplace - head office is over 30 miles away.

Now if I ever need to give any potential new employer the reasons of leaving these 2 above jobs, what should I put? I am worried that some potential employers will not bother to go further with me when they see the word dismissed. Fortunately both companies no longer exist.

As they were 9 and 12 years ago, would potential employers need this info? As to my CV - the first job, it looks fine as I started another job the following month - 10 days gap. As many people leave a job at the end of the month and start at the beginning of the following month. The other job, I was temping for 7 months in various roles. Assignments varied from 3 days to 5 weeks with an average gap of 3 days between. Couldn't remember exactly how many roles I had then. It was the start of the recession.

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sangie595

"Left to take up new position" - absolutely truthful, but says nothing. You left, you took up a new position. You didn't say that you didn't start looking for the new position, and didn't have an offer before your termination.

And for what it is worth, far more likely that you either left your log in details somewhere in case you forgot them, or you were seen logging in by someone. Both of which shouldn't happen. The chances of someone hacking an individual account in a workplace for this reason is highly unlikely - far easier and less effort to set up an anonymous account on browser based mail. There are no identity checks on most of these so you cannot easily be traced. The fact it happened within the workplace suggests it is far more likely that you were careless with security. Which is not a criticism but a warning - in my experience, many people are. I know exactly where many of my colleagues keep their passwords! And none of them think twice about logging on with someone looking over their shoulder. And they should know better!

V2-Schneider

ScarletMarble wrote: »

The other job which was in 2008. I was in the job for 5 months I was unfairly dismissed as I was disconnecting too many calls. I was working in collections - so outbound calls. We were told to disconnect calls if it goes to an answering machine/voicemail, upon connection we get noises similar to ringing a fax machine or silence after saying "Hello (customers name)" several times. Then those customers that would not stop using inappropriate language after 3 times of you asking them to not to use it. I was called into an investigation as they were concerned that my disconnections were high. It was not my fault as the dialler gives the calls randomly. If another colleague got the same calls as me, they would have been in the same position as me.

Just to pick up on this, most companies when looking at statistics would have a margin of error to take into account such randomness. As you say, it might have been just luck of the draw, but would this have been the case when a statistical threshold eliminating chance is considered? Further, would consistent breaches of the "disconnects" over a large period of time also contrive against you?

But I don't know about your situation in particular, so it might very well have been pure chance for a consistently high, beyond the realms of chance number of disconnects! Yet, is there smoke without fire...?

Anyway, not to cast doubt on what's happened, the best approach if asked about this would to be honest about what's happened. Indeed, it could be a 'weakness' which you critically reflect upon. Suggest about how what happened impacted you, and explain how you would deal with it differently now?

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Why don't you apply for jobs and see how you get on, personally I think you are in a blind panic or over thinking, the talking point is going to be your current job.

Modern technology has moved on so much in recent times I wouldn't even try explaining the above.

I left an online retailer 3 years ago, my new job is back in this (different product line) but must say this now not so relevant experience wasn't the focus point to me securing the position by any stretch.

Of course there have been interviewers/agencies that gave a hard time who would date right back but that kind of reinforced they were seriously possibly not the right positions and I was not suitable to them.

Good luck with the job search as I remember in 2015 you were so insistent you were not for moving and having just taken on a long term temp contract job one thing I noticed is one of the things needed to make it go permanent is excellent attendance in the times we're in. Again another position where no references are required from anybody - my attendance and conduct on job being an overrider.

elsien

If both companies no longer exist then I'd be saying something bland about new challenges. I certainly wouldn't be mentioning investigations or dismissal unless there was any likelihood of it being able to be checked up on.
As to the second job, you weren't unfairly dismissed. You failed to meet the targets set which other people were managing to achieve. Bad luck - possibly. Unfair - no.

Stylehutz

Dont worry about it. If both companies no longer exist. Its going to be very difficult to contact them to find out how you left

System

sangie595 wrote: »

"Left to take up new position" - absolutely truthful, but says nothing. You left, you took up a new position. You didn't say that you didn't start looking for the new position, and didn't have an offer before your termination.

And for what it is worth, far more likely that you either left your log in details somewhere in case you forgot them, or you were seen logging in by someone. Both of which shouldn't happen. The chances of someone hacking an individual account in a workplace for this reason is highly unlikely - far easier and less effort to set up an anonymous account on browser based mail. There are no identity checks on most of these so you cannot easily be traced. The fact it happened within the workplace suggests it is far more likely that you were careless with security. Which is not a criticism but a warning - in my experience, many people are. I know exactly where many of my colleagues keep their passwords! And none of them think twice about logging on with someone looking over their shoulder. And they should know better!

I am always careful with my log in details for any website. I certainly don't list them on a note pad or on my phone, like I see many people do. When I have been in workplaces where I had a log in for the computer, I always logged out of them at the end of the day, including the Windows NT sign on. I had my own desk at the first example in the OP. The other job was hot desking - for example, 100 colleagues on the books but about 63% were in each day as we all worked 5 days over 7.- allowing a few colleagues to be off sick or on annual leave. Think we had 72 computers in our work area. So had to log out each day