How to ignore, exaggerate & make things up.

jobbingmusician

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

I found out something today which put together with other things i already knew just made me not really understand the company's stance.

Now before sangie gets his/her knickers in a twist again, i'm not saying the company is right or wrong. I'm just saying with this information i don't understand their stance because it's like what's ok on a Monday isn't on a Tuesday kind of thing...



I have an injury which i and the doc fully expects to be temporary. Despite the past few posts from others i have actually seen the doc (more than once - and no i was not 'ordered' to take time off). If i was requested to see a company doc then i would.

Anyway...

Not all that long ago they employed someone with a physical disability and without going into more detail because i don't really want to identify myself too much on a public forum, this persons physical disability basically is how i'm operating now. This employee was taken on to do manual handling and was unable to do 100%. The company would later complain that he wasn't doing it - yet he physically couldn't. He was taken on during a time where we were a bit desperate for staff. Lovely person & tried their best but there were things they physically couldn't do which the job required & the company would grumble. They never let the employee go though although the employee stayed maybe 10 months or so IIRC.

Within the past 12 months 2 employees have lost the use of their entire arm. Their job is also manual handling therefore they would (& were) unable to do 100% of their duties. They were only like this for a few days and i know in one of the employees cases the doc had told them they should take i think it was 10 days off work (2 week) but they were allowed to work 1-armed basically.

Another i found out today was that a co-worker in my department broke their leg. They were worried about being able to pay their bills. The company said to them that they weren't to worry and that alternative work would be found so that they could continue to work & earn their money.


And then there's my situation. No less capable than those i mentioned yet a totally different reaction.

Just to put it in to context. That is why it doesn't really make sense to me.

Didn't my previous post make ANY sense to you?

These other workers have medically endorsed conditions and the employer has behaved well in accommodating them. That same employer is asking you to get a medical report to endorse your condition. And you seem to be refusing. You seem to be expecting the employer to 'take your word for it'. And it doesn't matter how much the employer loves you, they can't do this as they have to treat all employees alike.

I'm out.

sangie595

jobbingmusician wrote: »

Didn't my previous post make ANY sense to you?

These other workers have medically endorsed conditions and the employer has behaved well in accommodating them. That same employer is asking you to get a medical report to endorse your condition. And you seem to be refusing. You seem to be expecting the employer to 'take your word for it'. And it doesn't matter how much the employer loves you, they can't do this as they have to treat all employees alike.

I'm out.

Quite. The OP appears to fail to understand that they are the one being awkward here, not the employer, and that there are consequences for that behaviour. Be careful though or thrill accuse you of ranting, that is, telling them something they don't want to hear.

One wonders why on earth people post when the already have the answer they want...

nicechap

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

If they can they can and if not then they can't. I'm not here to argue the toss, just simply ask either way.

I've an ongoing problem which is restricting me at work

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but i can't afford time off

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I feel like such a fraud walking in there wasting A&E time.

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If you just wanted a yes/ no response you should have added a poll with just those two options and stopped writing after your first sentence rather than posting a meandering tale.

A&E is not the place for an ongoing problem like you describe, perhaps consider a minor injury clinic for a new episode but you really should be asking your GP for a referral for a MRI or CT and spinal assessment, you may have any one of a number of problems which if you continue to aggravate it will leave you unable to do the 90% of the current job you can do as well as the 10% you're not doing.

Ask anyone retired with a bad back whether they would do the same as you are doing.

Sarastro

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73166165#Comment_73166165

I think it's this thread where you say, "work is not for me". Either give your employer the medical evidence to explain why they should change your duties...or don't. If you choose not to, don't be surprised if you end up losing your job. And don't have any dreams of unfair dismissal cases, you won't have one if you ignored medical advice.

nicechap

jobbingmusician wrote: »

IMAGINARY EMPLOYER'S REPORT

Employee has told us that they can do 90% of their job. They have not provided any evidence to this effect, they seem to just be expecting us to accommodate a non-verified personal opinion and allows them to recover safely.

Action - we have recommended that they visit their doctor to have this medical opinion verified and to suggest a way forward which avoids any further injury which might lay us open to legal action.

Employee is reluctant to do this.

Our options - accommodate 90% performance. NO. This would leave us open to any employee claiming what amounts to disability without any medical verification.
Start process to dismiss on grounds of capability - only remaining option.

I like this, seems so apt having read the latest rant.

EDITED to add - Shame the OP has deleted their latest post criticising all and sundry, I can see why others quote posts for posterity.

Undervalued

nicechap wrote: »

I like this, seems so apt having read the latest rant.

EDITED to add - Shame the OP has deleted their latest post criticising all and sundry, I can see why others quote posts for posterity.

Do you mean this one......

It's a rant.

I came in here asking for a yes/no. That's all. I never had an attitude at all until i came across your post. You could've said it totally differently. You chose not to. It was OTT really.

I don't care whether anything appears to tie in with your argument against this.
Right at the very beginning, day 1, i told my line manager the situation, in full. They never said it was fine they never said it wasn't they just said ok as an acknowledgement of me telling them.

Seriously this underlining everything gets a bit much, no?

That is the procedure there - you tell your line manager. You don't go above them you just go to them.
I only recently found out that the company were not informed by the line manager. They appeared to be unhappy that the LM never told them but that isn't my fault & they said as such. They said clearly the LM has decided that it is ok for you to work in the capacity you are in.

Yes i said that the employer seems to rather me want to take the time off. Does that mean that that came first? No. Is my LM my employer? No. My LM is supposed to relay things like this higher up, that's their duty.

"ORDERED"?? Jesus christ are you a solicitor or something? If not you should be because you really know how to twist someones words. The doctor didn't ORDER anything. They told me what the problem was & that was about all they were volunteering. I had to ask what was needed to make it better. They weren't going to volunteer that.

So hardly "ORDERING" as you put it. Seriously, way to exaggerate something, hell fire. Do i work with you? I do wonder with the way you're twisting things.

They said that it would require rest. I said that i cannot afford to give it rest to which they just said then it will take longer to heal.

So show me where the ORDERING is. Where did the doc stand up & shout at the top of their lungs .... YOU MUST TAKE TIME OFF WORK, I DEMAND IT!!!...? Honestly, there's no need to exaggerate things.

Stick to the facts.

And you still haven't told me where i said i didn't inform my employer. There's some underline for you.

Gives a damn about my health and safety? Oh if only you knew!! Trust me. But i'm not going in to that, which will suit you but hey ho.

And no i don't pretend to know everything. I just respond to people the same way they respond to me. So far you're the only one i've had an attitude with. Nobody else. I wonder why that is? Because others here have said i shouldn't be working, yet they've done it oh so differently to you.

Google is a wonderful thing!

nicechap

Brilliant - thank you.

nicechap

The Op has now edited the title to their thread. Says a lot about them in my opinion.