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Why would anyone cycle to work?

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  • scd3scd4
    scd3scd4 Posts: 1,180 Forumite
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    edited 9 October 2017 at 4:11PM
    jack_pott wrote: »
    I've cycled on snow and ice too, but I didn't slip. Perhaps that's because not wearing a helmet made me ride more carefully.

    Maybe you don't cycle 20 miles most days all year. Risk increases with frequency.
  • andrewf75 wrote: »
    it makes not a shred of difference to how I cycle.
    So how did you measure that?

    For example, I've cited the case of the seatbelts, I'm sure drivers would tell me that their belts make not a shred of difference to the way they drive too, and why should they have noticed? The extra accidents required to wipe out all the benefits of seat belts is only of the order of one in a million miles or so. How could any one individual driver possibly be in a position to perceive that?
    the weight of opinion and common sense is a better judge!

    It was public opinion and common sense that taught us the earth is flat and that the sun orbits around it. "Common sense" is for people who aren't interested in thinking.
  • scd3scd4
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    edited 9 October 2017 at 4:30PM
    Do using lights make a person take chances??............
  • scd3scd4 wrote: »
    Maybe you don't cycle 20 miles most days all year. Risk increases with frequency.

    The bike parked next to me here has done 41,873 miles, I don't have records for the previous ones. In that time I've had just one crash with no injury other than a graze on my leg.
  • andrewf75
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    jack_pott wrote: »
    So how did you measure that?

    You can't measure everything.
    It was public opinion and common sense that taught us the earth is flat and that the sun orbits around it. "Common sense" is for people who aren't interested in thinking.

    just because expert opinion and common sense is occasionally wrong doesn't mean it isn't still the best judge.
    Thinking outside the box is good, but you can take it to extremes!
  • scd3scd4
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    jack_pott wrote: »
    The bike parked next to me here has done 41,873 miles, I don't have records for the previous ones. In that time I've had just one crash with no injury other than a graze on my leg.

    Thats great. I knew an old lady who lived till 80 plus while smoking 60 a day all her life. I suppose that puts an end to the cancer scare all them Drs talk about.

    Of course not wearing a helmet stops others actions and human error. Its like a Mutant special power.
  • scd3scd4
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    I would not ride any different with or without a helmet. Most of the time I forget I have it on.
  • scd3scd4 wrote: »
    Do using lights make a person take chances

    Here's a good example that's enshrined in law:

    If you use dynamo lights with no standlight it's illegal to stop on the crest of the road whilst waiting to turn right. Fit a standlight or battery lights on the other hand, and you're now permitted to risk stopping in the centre of the road at night, just for the convenience of making an easier right turn.
  • scd3scd4
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    jack_pott wrote: »
    Here's a good example that's enshrined in law:

    If you use dynamo lights with no standlight it's illegal to stop on the crest of the road whilst waiting to turn right. Fit a standlight or battery lights on the other hand, and you're now permitted to risk stopping in the centre of the road at night, just for the convenience of making an easier right turn.


    Half of the people I see day in day out have not read that and don't care when they nearly ride into me............funny but the same type of people who don't have lights, don't wear a helmet for some reason.
  • scd3scd4 wrote: »
    Thats great. I knew an old lady who lived till 80 plus while smoking 60 a day all her life. I suppose that puts an end to the cancer scare all them Drs talk about.
    The statistics show that smoking causes lung cancer, and the statistics so far seem to show that populations that don't wear helmets have a lower head injury rate. The old lady is just irrelevant anecdata, and so is your fall off the bike.
    Of course not wearing a helmet stops others actions and human error. Its like a Mutant special power.
    Wearing a helmet will stop some injuries and cause others, not wearing a helmet will also stop some injuries and cause others. The only meaningful comparison is to compare the total number of injuries in both cases, which is what the American experiment did, and the result was that non-helmet was safer.
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