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Standard Life Endowment Problem

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  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    That's right Shorty,

    Only people holding With-profits policies will be eleigible for a bonus and the TEP traders don't buy unit-linked policies.

    What funds is your policy invested in?

    If it's not performing well, switching to another fund (or 2) may be a better idea than surrendering, depending on what you plan to do with the money.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • Shorty
    Shorty Posts: 7 Forumite
    The fund name on the documentation states "Life with profits fund". Apologies if I'm a bit vague being a builder finance matters are not my strong point.
    Thanks
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    Shorty

    Life With profits fund


    This suggests you are a member of Standard life and will be eligible for a DM bonus.:)Did you get voting papers for the recent Annual general meeting, that would be a sign?

    You may have what they call a "unitised With profits endowment" which doesn't have a guaranteed sum assured.THese can't be sold.But these policies are not the same as "unit-linked" policies - the latter are not invested in With-profits.

    Don't surrender the policy before the demutualisation next year. And if you're not sure about your membership, ring them up and ask.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • Shorty
    Shorty Posts: 7 Forumite
    Yes I did receive voting papers. I will call them to check. Thank you very much for your help.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,213 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Also, as a Standard Life with profits member, you have probably read that Standard life will now give information on terminal bonuses to IFAs which they wouldnt in the past. Before you make up your mind, you should get this information. Failure to do so could mean you kissing good bye to amount that can range from zero to many thousands of pounds.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    Shorty, suggest you get a surrender value for your policy when you call up on the membership and also ask how much of the value is made up of terminal bonus.

    It's very unlikely there will be any left, but worth asking (and worth seeing if they will tell you, as there have been complaints over this!).
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • ReportInvestor
    ReportInvestor Posts: 3,646 Forumite
    I think they'll still only give those details to IFAs, Editor, but I agree it's worth nagging away at them to widen such disclosures, in the public interest.
  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    Sadly, I suspect there will be no details to give.It's very unlikely Shorty will have any TB left: a year ago 15-year maturing policies were paying out only a miserable 3.8% TB, according to Money Management magazine, and his policy is younger.

    I can imagine why they have this rule - to some members the news will come as a great shock, and the staff at the call centres would no doubt be in for an earful. Hardly fair to expect them to put up with that, however understable an angry reaction is from the policyholder point of view - the losses are certainly not the call centre staff 's fault.
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • http://www.ifasok.co.uk/Downloads/STLMaturity.pdf

    Work this one out, no TB?

    What is going on?
    If you don't know what you are talking about keep quiet
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 120,213 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    http://www.ifasok.co.uk/Downloads/STLMaturity.pdf

    Work this one out, no TB?

    What is going on?

    I'm not sure that is the right information. The projected maturity value, AFAIA, wouldnt have the TB on it. It is the breakdown of the bonuses that should.

    Usually, those printouts are about 4-5 pages long. Did it appear on one of the other pages?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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